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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 12, 2004 16:37:17 GMT -5
Good day Suhana. The following post is controversial, and is only based on my personal experience. I have, at one stage, used Thai amulets for protection. The deity I chose was Pakawan, although I later added other ones, such as Buddha, Kong Peng, Pita and a Dang Gha. Although I tried to invoke Pakawan, I did not manage to. However, I have gotten into fights where, miraculously, I came away without any injuries. Coincidence or not I don't know. During the period that I was using Pakawan for protection, there was a daily routine that I had to do. Every evening, at 6 pm, I had to chant his mantra and blow on the amulet 3 times, and then put oil on the amulet. As most of the Thai deities can be used for good and bad, the way that you practice using their powers will affect how they work for you and how they affect you. Most of these deities, Pakawan, Pita and many more, are involved in Thai black magic as well, so it really depends on how you want it to influence you. Due to the way I used Pakawan (for fighting and personal protection), I became very anti-female and very hot tempered. This was not noticed by me, but my friends pointed it out. Although, I later added the Buddha together with the Pakawan, as I had dedicated a lot of time and energy to the Pakawan, the Buddha was not able to suppress the Pakawan's influence and my temper got worse, which led to the disruption of my life. I finally gave the Pakawan to a Thai temple. As for now, I am a Christian. I was a Christian before discovering Pakawan, but backslided, and now, have re-discovered myself in Christianity. However, due to my experience with the other religions of the world, Taoism, Buddhism and Thai amulets, I have a very open mind and I accept people's choices of religions and share my personal experiences with people who are interested. Warmest regards, Tze Hou Tze Hou ni hao We should be careful in keeping amulets. Some will side effect, as you described. The changes is character, usually will make us more aggresive. We use the term "hot items." Normaly, if you "buy" the amulets, their effect will only lasted for a period of time (7, 21, 49 days), but if you "does" it yourself, it will last longer or in some cases will stay with you forever. But like everything in the universe, there always be something to counter amulets. We used to caught a robber, small built guy. No matter how hard we puched, kicked, even using iron pole to bashed him. He just squat still. Then we remember that this guy must "have" something. We stripped naked him, and we found "yellow iron" in his trouser's inner pocket. To our surprise, after we confiscated the amulet, he cried and beg us not to bashed him. Again, the things that we get from amulets, spiritual rituals IS NOT THE SAME as normal martial arts that we learn. Cheers. |
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 12, 2004 16:48:52 GMT -5
Good day Suhana. As for now, I am a Christian. I was a Christian before discovering Pakawan, but backslided, and now, have re-discovered myself in Christianity. However, due to my experience with the other religions of the world, Taoism, Buddhism and Thai amulets, Warmest regards, Tze Hou Tze Hou ni hao In my humble view, better not to put amulets stuff as a major religions (Buddhism, Taoism, Christian). Amulets is different. For me, what you've encountered is not something strange or controversial. THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT FIRST HAND EXPERIENCES ARE MUCH MORE VALUABLE AND USEFUL COMPARE THAN GETTING tTHRU BOOKS, MANUALS, FILMS, etc,etc. Action speaks louder than words.   Cheers. |
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Post by pitbull on Nov 12, 2004 20:01:23 GMT -5
what can u say about kalimasada
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 12, 2004 20:17:18 GMT -5
what can u say about kalimasada Pitbull ni hao Kalimasada is one of hundred schools that teach you how to train the breathing techniques and the so called "inner power". Again, THIS KIND OF TRAINING IS NOT THE SAME AS NORMAL MARTIAL TRAINING. Some schools impose strict protocol. Only for the certain religion. In general they are teaching what the local called "Ïlmu Kontak." Cheers. |
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Post by essence on Nov 12, 2004 22:59:01 GMT -5
Tze Hou ni hao In my humble view, better not to put amulets stuff as a major religions (Buddhism, Taoism, Christian). Amulets is different. Cheers. Good day Suhana. Do you have any personal experiences with Thai or maybe Indonesian amulets? I remember one of my friend's father saying he got a wooden ring from a bomoh in Indonesia which made his hand like a rock. Care to share your experiences? Warmest regards, Tze Hou |
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Post by essence on Nov 12, 2004 23:01:49 GMT -5
what can u say about kalimasada Good day pitbull. The only Kali which I am familiar with comes from Hinduism. She is the wife of Shiva (the Destroyer) and the mother of Ganesh (the elephant god). She catches demons to eat as well (Zhong Kui) and is very fierce when she comes into the devotee's body. Tell tale characteristic is hyper-extended tongue, same as Tua Dee Ah Pek. Warmest regards, Tze Hou |
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Post by jeff on Nov 13, 2004 7:29:34 GMT -5
Jeff, keep the clips first in your archive. I like to discuss this first with Eric before we are launching this. I have some very interesting material too, but I prefer to keep it (partly) locked. I will contact you by PM. Evert. No Problem my friend whatever you think is best ,i'll look for your pm. jeff:) |
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Post by pitbull on Nov 13, 2004 10:01:29 GMT -5
essence: no...i am talking about tetada kalimasada...an indonesian art...do you guys think this is real or just hao shao?
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 13, 2004 21:18:20 GMT -5
Good day Suhana. Do you have any personal experiences with Thai or maybe Indonesian amulets? I remember one of my friend's father saying he got a wooden ring from a bomoh in Indonesia which made his hand like a rock. Care to share your experiences? Warmest regards, Tze Hou Tze Hou ni hao Seems your interest in this field so big Yes I do, but can you PM me your email address, I'll explain in details. Hope you understand  Cheers. |
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 13, 2004 21:21:03 GMT -5
essence: no...i am talking about tetada kalimasada...an indonesian art...do you guys think this is real or just hao shao? Pitbull ni hao Unfortunately he is not hao shao, it's real. But as I've always said, this kind of "exercise" is NOT SIMILAR as the martial arts that you and me learn. Cheers. |
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Post by essence on Nov 14, 2004 1:10:52 GMT -5
Good day Evert.
Once again, a most informative post. I am amazed at your knowledge of the Chinese culture.
Thank you for sharing your information.
Warmest regards,
Tze Hou
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Post by pitbull on Nov 14, 2004 8:41:14 GMT -5
yes,its actually diff from what we are talking about but they are intigrating it w silat or is part of some silat so i think its worthwhile to have a peek...people say that they can hurl people just by using chi...like the ones we see in wangyu's movies...i realy want to see this first hand
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 15, 2004 3:11:59 GMT -5
yes,its actually diff from what we are talking about but they are intigrating it w silat or is part of some silat so i think its worthwhile to have a peek...people say that they can hurl people just by using chi...like the ones we see in wangyu's movies...i realy want to see this first hand Pitbull ni hao Yes, I suggest you to prove it first hand. It's lot "enjoyable" than hear from people or read from books/manuals. Cheers. |
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Post by pitbull on Nov 15, 2004 7:18:58 GMT -5
maybe you mean experience first hand?
i am open to many things...so long as they dont contradict with my principles...
i am actually asking my friend to have me acompany them next time they went to a demonstration...i want to see and feel what its like...
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Post by essence on Nov 15, 2004 8:41:59 GMT -5
Good day pitbull. If I may ask, whereabouts are you located? In Asia? Which region? The website posted is regarding mediums in Singapore. The gods invoked are the same during Shen Tar, but in this instance, they are not being invoked for fighting, but for celebration. weecheng.com/singapore/tanki/index.htmWarmest regards, Tze Hou |
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