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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 15, 2005 23:03:18 GMT -5
Hello everyone! The scrape, brush,polish, grind, glide,rubbing etc. of Mor, Moy,Ma is also used for Dim Mak description of point activation. Just my 2 cents, or at least 1 and a half cent. Tell me more . tell me more.................
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Post by diligentmantis on Feb 16, 2005 5:35:44 GMT -5
Hi Eric , In Dit Ngau we have a form called Tong Gin Mor Kiu sau.
The use of the hand play is to set up the dim mak points. Certain forms consentrate on certain meridians , By pressing , rubbing , grinding we are setting the opponent up by using the meridians to the main organs these can only be struck in certain directions to get the desired results , This also depends on the time of day/Night that the points are most active. Since any form the Specialies in Single knuckle Pheonix eye etc. These to my mind are specialised arts. A knowledge of the meridians is important in most arts, and an understanding of the tecniques in the forms and correct use of power to apply.
sean
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 16, 2005 10:25:08 GMT -5
Hi Eric , In Dit Ngau we have a form called Tong Gin Mor Kiu sau. The use of the hand play is to set up the dim mak points. Certain forms consentrate on certain meridians , By pressing , rubbing , grinding we are setting the opponent up by using the meridians to the main organs these can only be struck in certain directions to get the desired results , This also depends on the time of day/Night that the points are most active. Since any form the Specialies in Single knuckle Pheonix eye etc. These to my mind are specialised arts. A knowledge of the meridians is important in most arts, and an understanding of the tecniques in the forms and correct use of power to apply. sean Hi Sean, Pressing, I understand when used as a "meridian" opening technique. Pressing certain points on the arm and then hitting "corresponding" organ is taught in many styles. At higher levels of course. Most teachers would only teach these skills to "inner door" students. Here, I am more interested in talking "scrapping" or "polishing" as an end itself. What is acheived by "scrapping" and "polishing" as far as fighting is concerned. Inflict pain, slowing opponent down or "bridge" breaking?
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 16, 2005 10:56:30 GMT -5
Bridge breaking = mind breaking (too......). I mean besides the motorical (functional) paralysis, you will face the fact that 'pain is an emotion'.
Evert.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 16, 2005 11:09:16 GMT -5
Bridge breaking = mind breaking (too......). I mean besides the motorical (functional) paralysis, you will face the fact that 'pain is an emotion'. Evert. Beautiful answer my friend. When you fight the opponent, you fight his eyes (mind, perception, pre-occupation). So deflecting now becomes deflecting with a "scrapper" or "grinder". Let explore deeper though......
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Post by Jim Roselando on Feb 16, 2005 15:00:59 GMT -5
Hello all,
Very nice thread! I am big fan of Jook Lum mantis! Wondeful system! I studied the art for a while and have met some very nice people! Students and Grandstudents of Lum Sang Sifu! I also met some South Mantis people in the UK while there.
The art is fluid and pwerful with very nice training to cultivate the body.
My sifu is currently living in China soing research on the arts of South Mantis. He will be selling a E-Book online! When its complete/ready for sale I will post you guys! Its a great read with lots of nice info./pic's from many of the South Mantis elders/clans!
Can someone tell me how to attach foto's?
Regards,
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Post by JookLum on Feb 17, 2005 0:37:22 GMT -5
Hello again everyone, great posts. Diligentmantis and others have covered what i would have wrote about the hand being used in point striking. Alot of the scrapping or polishing you mentioned Eric are used to attack the hand,wrist,arm,shoulder,neck and head.(But is not limited to these only) A few of techniques which apply scrapping/polishing are Gop Shu,Chop Shu,Saw or skimming hand,Hon/Pai Shu,fut Sao,Ma shu,Gwa shu,Sai Shu and feed/eat hand.
There are other techniques such as vein stripping which use mainly the fingers and scrap or seal and pull the blood against it`s normal flow to cause great pain, paralysis and numbness. This uses a type of scrapping.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 17, 2005 0:43:39 GMT -5
Hello again everyone, great posts. Diligentmantis and others have covered what i would have wrote about the hand being used in point striking. Alot of the scrapping or polishing you mentioned Eric are used to attack the hand,wrist,arm,shoulder,neck and head.(But is not limited to these only) A few of techniques which apply scrapping/polishing are Gop Shu,Chop Shu,Saw or skimming hand,Hon/Pai Shu,fut Sao,Ma shu,Gwa shu,Sai Shu and feed/eat hand. There are other techniques such as vein stripping which use mainly the fingers and scrap or seal and pull the blood against it`s normal flow to cause great pain, paralysis and numbness. This uses a type of scrapping. Hey Bamboo Forest, Any chance of visual aids ? Terminologies...........arrrrrrrghhhhhh!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by JookLum on Feb 17, 2005 1:08:04 GMT -5
I will see what i can find.
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Post by JookLum on Feb 18, 2005 0:30:32 GMT -5
Okay here’s how I post pictures:- 1. I upload all my picture to www.photobucket.comThis is a free service and you just need to register. 2. Once the pictures are there, I simply right-click and copy the URL. 3. When I want to post, I just click the 2nd row, 4th button in the “ADD TAG” area. Then this appears: "(img]URL[/img)". 4. Highlight the URL and right click to paste the URL copied at photobucket. Maybe other members do it differently. Hello Eric i tried this method for posting some pics( although i use hpphoto.com)but it would only post the jpg name but no picture. Any suggestions? ?Thanks
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Post by diligentmantis on Feb 18, 2005 3:39:07 GMT -5
Hi Juk Lum,
When you go to photobucket there are 3 options select the IMG code and paste this to the forum document.
then click on review you will see the photo,
this worked for me thanks to Evert
sean
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 18, 2005 8:18:05 GMT -5
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 18, 2005 8:29:28 GMT -5
Pak Mei Pai grandmaster: Chan Chik Sheung
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Post by JookLum on Feb 21, 2005 1:04:01 GMT -5
Hi Sean! Thank you for the post and i will give it a try.
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Post by MorCup on Mar 8, 2005 5:52:00 GMT -5
This could have to do with a method of power generation which has a side effect of protecting the body. So when they strike you strike and you don't get hurt.
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