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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 24, 2004 22:55:10 GMT -5
Evert, please don’t kill me for saying this but I have been thinking about this and decided that this is the best place to talk about this. Folks, I just received some of the most FANTABULOUS video clips from our Dutch friend. He sent them to me and that hippie crane Martin Watts. Some of these clips include:- 1. An old NCK form – very well-done. 2. Feeding Crane clips that beat anything on-sales out there. A very young Liu Chiang I showing his close-range explosive jin that really says everything about Feeding Crane. Clips include something taken off Tainan TV - where did you get stuff like these? 3. 4 Disabled Form – got to admit, my 1st time watching this form in motion. Read a lot about it but never got a chance to see it. In fact, at one time, wanted to travel to Hong Kong just to watch this form in a martial art conference. Tied up with work then and another Kung fu brother went on my behalf. 4. Wing Chun done with a Hakka flavoring. Interesting for those of you who have never moved outside your own Wing Chun circle. These are absolute GEMS I tell you. I’ve been playing them over and over – yummy! Evert, I share your concern about these falling into the wrong hands. But I am sure we can find a way to keep these with those we trust. Holding them back is a SIN really.hahahaha. I am compiling all my stuff with the help of kung fu brothers here and once ready I will make them selectively available. Working on putting all the Fuzhou Cranes together side-by-side for serious researchers. Russ, maybe you can help here. Your resource library would be the perfect place to store some of these vintage gems. Between Evert and me, we must have thousands of books/videos that would do well in your vault for keen researchers. Just need to restrict accessibilities. You know who I am talking about. Nothing and absolutely nothing must go to that fraud. He can go make up and evolve all the Sh*t he wants. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Nataraya on Nov 25, 2004 4:06:52 GMT -5
Eric, I have my doubts about opening this material for the wide open world. Truly, I prefer to sent them personally to serious friends, and after a while. I can talk a lot about this, but prefer to show you the next link. I am sorry of I touch some vital spots, but I think I need to let my heart speak in front of a view readers: blackbeltshop.com/kung_fu_videos.htmThe covers of the Five individual animal presentation, just hurts. I didn't saw one second of the clips, but the cover breath a bad sign....... In my collection of material I have very nice and rare footages. Besides my students, it is you and Martin that i share with. Some are general and I have no problems in given them to Russ. I can hear the saliva flow dripping from your mouth with the idea of 'showing the world', but my advise is: Present them with a limited access...... Tonight I will send you more feeding Crane, hahahahaha. And I have some Plumblossom Crane waiting for you. Warm regards, Evert.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 25, 2004 9:43:09 GMT -5
Eric, Tonight I will send you more feeding Crane, hahahahaha. And I have some Plumblossom Crane waiting for you. Warm regards, Evert. aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Post by Gojumaster on Nov 25, 2004 9:52:34 GMT -5
Eric, I'm not sure how I missed this post. Anyhow, of course I will be glad to help, and am completely sensitive to general issue of security as well as the specific "issue" to which you speak. The software I have written for my site is exactly for the pupose you indicate. Evert, please don’t kill me for saying this but I have been thinking about this and decided that this is the best place to talk about this. Folks, I just received some of the most FANTABULOUS video clips from our Dutch friend. He sent them to me and that hippie crane Martin Watts. Some of these clips include:- 1. An old NCK form – very well-done. 2. Feeding Crane clips that beat anything on-sales out there. A very young Liu Chiang I showing his close-range explosive jin that really says everything about Feeding Crane. Clips include something taken off Tainan TV - where did you get stuff like these? 3. 4 Disabled Form – got to admit, my 1st time watching this form in motion. Read a lot about it but never got a chance to see it. In fact, at one time, wanted to travel to Hong Kong just to watch this form in a martial art conference. Tied up with work then and another Kung fu brother went on my behalf. 4. Wing Chun done with a Hakka flavoring. Interesting for those of you who have never moved outside your own Wing Chun circle. These are absolute GEMS I tell you. I’ve been playing them over and over – yummy! Evert, I share your concern about these falling into the wrong hands. But I am sure we can find a way to keep these with those we trust. Holding them back is a SIN really.hahahaha. I am compiling all my stuff with the help of kung fu brothers here and once ready I will make them selectively available. Working on putting all the Fuzhou Cranes together side-by-side for serious researchers. Russ, maybe you can help here. Your resource library would be the perfect place to store some of these vintage gems. Between Evert and me, we must have thousands of books/videos that would do well in your vault for keen researchers. Just need to restrict accessibilities. You know who I am talking about. Nothing and absolutely nothing must go to that fraud. He can go make up and evolve all the Sh*t he wants. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Gojumaster on Nov 25, 2004 9:56:10 GMT -5
Evert, I understand your desire to avoid rare and sensitive materials getting out to "certain" people who will mis-use them and call them their own. I have placed myself and hosting capabilities at your disposal. My needs are met, simply being allowed to play "librarian" and get a glimpse of these things you share. I have some pretty rare footage of Liu as well, not that commercial stuff...stuff shot at his home, etc. I'll convert to MPG soon and post for the small group here. Eric, I have my doubts about opening this material for the wide open world. Truly, I prefer to sent them personally to serious friends, and after a while. I can talk a lot about this, but prefer to show you the next link. I am sorry of I touch some vital spots, but I think I need to let my heart speak in front of a view readers: blackbeltshop.com/kung_fu_videos.htmThe covers of the Five individual animal presentation, just hurts. I didn't saw one second of the clips, but the cover breath a bad sign....... In my collection of material I have very nice and rare footages. Besides my students, it is you and Martin that i share with. Some are general and I have no problems in given them to Russ. I can hear the saliva flow dripping from your mouth with the idea of 'showing the world', but my advise is: Present them with a limited access...... Tonight I will send you more feeding Crane, hahahahaha. And I have some Plumblossom Crane waiting for you. Warm regards, Evert.
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Post by CStephens on Nov 30, 2004 21:11:14 GMT -5
*wipes drool from mouth*
The only footage I have of Liu Chang I is his Feeding Crane Gung Fu video from Tsunami. The forms were great, his power generation certainly made me reevaluate how we strike in Karate. It was the application demonstrations that made me sad, though.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 30, 2004 21:47:08 GMT -5
*wipes drool from mouth* The only footage I have of Liu Chang I is his Feeding Crane Gung Fu video from Tsunami. The forms were great, his power generation certainly made me reevaluate how we strike in Karate. It was the application demonstrations that made me sad, though. Cody, IMHO, the Tsunami production which I saw in Denver was too commercial. Translate: - poorly done. The clips that Evert sent are really "raw" Feeding Crane. The theories of forcing open the 4th gate, moving into centerline to offset attackers and short-range explosions are really more defined. One terrific application is a unique White Crane chin-na technique embedded in the “Angles Battle” form. Simply lovely!! Even the same form "Angles Battle” came out better – smoother, IMHO. Liu, undoubtedly, is unadulterated Feeding Crane. It is no wonder that he is teaching his FC all over, even in Japan. Highly respected in my world of Fuzhou Crane. The Liu family (Fuzhou btw) was one Crane families that got “recalled” to mainland to re-start FC there. I know I talked about this a while ago but it is going to happen real soon. I got the original “Feeding Crane” book written by Liu Chang I’ grandfather, Liu Ku, in my library. Book is at least 30 years old and if you read Mandarin, you’ll find loads of “authentic” White Crane details. The first modern days White Crane book to be published. I will scan or shoot with a digital camera and make it selectively available. Thanks.
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 1, 2004 10:01:47 GMT -5
lalalalala, Hi Cody and the rest of you martial arts nuts, The cover of the 1st Feeding Crane book written by Liu Ku. I know, I know, the picture is still crappy but give me a bit more time..... Just wanted you guys to know that I wasn't bullsh**tting. lalalala;D;D;D
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 1, 2004 20:39:17 GMT -5
Hey folks, I think all you NCK fans will get a kick out of this:- Found an old article about KongHan and a NCK form in a old mag. Also pictures of a White Crane Sifu who was teaching in West Malaysia some time back.
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 1, 2004 23:05:56 GMT -5
Okay folks, Some more pix from old magazines. Pic#1 : The same picture I posted earlier - the Late GM Huang doing a move from MingHe. Pic#2 : A page from a old magazine from my Bukuan. The top pix is my 2 Si-Hings doing a Fuzhou Crane 2 men set. Bottom pix is my Late Sifu doing a move from Flying Crane. Pic#3 : A feature write-up based on a rare Southern CKF. This is the rarely heard "Foong Gar" or "Pheonix Family" Kung Fu. Except for mention in some magazines, I've got no more info on this system. The Sifu in the picture was teaching in Malaysia. Pic#3 : Very interesting article written by Chan Chin Fu, a Shi-to ryu instructor in HK many years ago. In the article, he talked about Karate and NCK connection. in this case, the resemblence between "Tensho" and GM Chee's "San Chiem". The CKF sifu in the picture is Sifu Yap.
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 1, 2004 23:36:48 GMT -5
More pictures: Pic#1 : Sifo Lo of HK doing one of his Tibetian Lama Pai forms. Pic#2 : The Late Yamaguchi-sensei in HK with his daughter and son.
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 2, 2004 3:07:26 GMT -5
Hi all. Some more pictures from my archive. First the same book cover, this time better shot. The 1st Feeding Crane book written by Liu Ko. Followed by 2 pages from the inside of book. This is one of my most “treasured” books because it is out of circulation and the original print is highly sought-after. The last page is from a “home-made” manual by a very old Whooping Crane school – I was given most of their forms manual because of the standing of my late Sifu. Many considered my Sifu to be the “Big Brother” of Fuzhou Crane. There is an interesting little story from this Whopping Crane School. Some years back a bunch of “researchers” came knocking on their door to seek information – Caucasians. The Sifu asked for credentials (White Crane lineage) or letter of recommendation and this group can’t produce any. They left with nothing. This is a very “old-fashioned” Whooping Crane school with lineage tracing all the way back to GM Xie Zong Xian himself. Most of their training is conducted behind closed doors, strictly no audience. I am lucky to be one of the privileged ones to be allowed into their training hall. Looking at their rendition of Whooping Crane, I would say they are the folks that Karate researchers ought to be talking to. If you could get them to talk that is. I have many of these “home-made” White Crane manuals and over time I hope to share some with you folks.
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Post by Nataraya on Dec 2, 2004 3:22:15 GMT -5
Eric,
Finally you start to learn with modern equipment, hahahaha. Especially the last foto sessions were of proper resolution. Looks very interesting material, although they are only photo's. Do you recognize 'evolution'?
Picture 135 [Liu Ko] it looks like a one finger hand position. Is this a common skill in White Crane and/ or Fukien arts too?
Interesting material about Lo Wai keung, In my archive I have also some ghandsigned material from his hand. Very nice grandmaster, who almost 'killed' me with his throatlock. My own mistake, in the next letter I willw rite a little bit more about him. Oh yes, one finger skill is seen in Lama Pai too.
My request, keep your eyes open for conditioning and training tools pictures. I like to make the thread a nice 'full' map of possibilities to practice specific parts of the body. In that case, a picture can reveals a whole story.
And, let the good shots keep on comming.
Kindest regards,
Evert.
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 2, 2004 4:33:23 GMT -5
Hi Evert and all, Your wish is again my command, Sire. I got a little something on Bai Mei’s Chan Kok Wah doing some conditioning. Also “Dao Pai” – recognize this? The Sifu under the truck is the founder “Chan Dao”. And finally a French doing Yau Kun Mun. This form looks sooooooo Fukien!
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Post by Gojumaster on Dec 2, 2004 7:15:16 GMT -5
Eric, I have Sifu Yap's book scanned into the library on my site. It contains among other things, the "3 battles" and "20 punches". You guys should have access. [snip] Pic#3 : Very interesting article written by Chan Chin Fu, a Shi-to ryu instructor in HK many years ago. In the article, he talked about Karate and NCK connection. in this case, the resemblence between "Tensho" and GM Chee's "San Chiem". The CKF sifu in the picture is Sifu Yap.
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