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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 1, 2004 23:59:40 GMT -5
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 2, 2004 18:39:05 GMT -5
Good Morning folks, Received some more pictures from Evert explicitly for posting for all to view. The old Sifu was a Black Tiger Kung Fu expert teaching in Hong Kong. Black Tiger Kung Fu, to me, is one of the most exciting styles from the Kwantung region. I remember reading about their 10 animals style with elephant, panther etc.... Truely fascinating. Anyone with more on Black Tiger ? This Sifu was also renowned for his "bowl and chopsticks" kung fu - another rarely seen skill in others. The middle picture - I got problem. What is this Evert ? A page out of X-files  Looks like Plum Blossom Stakes or Shaolin Stakes. Need your comment here. Last pix is me fooling around hehehe. Just kidding, this is another Black Tiger player doing his bridgearm conditioning. Enjoy.     |
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Post by pitbull on Nov 2, 2004 19:43:45 GMT -5
wow i really like the 1st pic! he really knows how to make training creative and fun!
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 3, 2004 5:16:44 GMT -5
Eric ni hao
The person in the third picture, is he punching or doing the forearm training. In our lineage, we use concrete ball for ngo kie. Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 3, 2004 7:28:33 GMT -5
Hi Suhana, Nin Hao. You know what, I can't really tell. The pix is from Evert - maybe he knows better. I would imagine the man is "throwing and catching" with the inner forearm. This is also done in Shaolin - 2 men style. Using forearm to throw cement barbell to partner's waiting forearm and you go back and forth doing this. The most common forearm conditioning must be the "3 Stars" sequence. Used to do so intensely that my hands were trembling hours afterwards. The next day, all the bruises will be inviting all sort of queries in school. However, of all the toughening execises, the shin bone is the hardest. In Shaolin, we use the shin to kick hanging canes and then wooden logs - boy I hated this. These days, I kill banana trees training this.8-)8-) Shin kicks, forearm strikes, punches and my favorite - flying elbows, front and spinning back elbows, So my friend, if you spar with me and you see me go like I am trying a jumping back thrust kick, I could be going for a back spinning hammer punch or spinning back elbow hehehe ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Nataraya on Nov 3, 2004 7:39:35 GMT -5
The picture in the middle looks indeed like Shaolin stakes, and they are stakes. But NOT to walk on. I do not know if one of you ever saw the Ba Qua film from mainland China? Stepping in between while launching Bridge Hands and Palm skills to the stakes? Now, you can say: but that’s Ba Qua. But who can tell me what Ba Qua really is?
For that I have an answer as giving through oral tradition. We have a form in our curriculum known as Yau Lung Pa Kwa Kuen, or Swimming Dragon around the Pa Kwa. The lineage that comes with that form dates back to the Ming, and so might be a proof that Pa Kwa existed before Dong created in 1850 his modern Ba Qua. Mean that Dong might have took an existing Siu Lam form to create a new wholistic system.
So the picture might have been an old Siu Lam way to practice stepping and conditioning at the same time.
The interesting part is (indeed) the Black Tiger practitioner in the third photo. Smashing a heavy weight against his forearms. Familiar?
Warm regards,
Evert.
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Post by pitbull on Nov 3, 2004 8:13:32 GMT -5
sanguis draconis 18%
masfix 15%
myrha 15%
fros carthami 15%
radix pseudoginseng(tienchi) 15%
aloe 10%
radix anglicas sinensis 8%
catechu gambir 4%
what can you guys say about a tie ta medicine that i just bought(not supposed to be smelly)
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 3, 2004 8:14:25 GMT -5
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Post by Nataraya on Nov 3, 2004 8:50:53 GMT -5
Pseudoginseng (San Qi/ Tien Qi), Mastic ( Ru Xiang), Myrrha (Mo Yao), Radix Angelica Sinensis (Dang Gui), Flos Carthamus (Hong Hua) are the most general ingredients a Die Da formula would have. Together it contain (in this case) almost 70% of the recipes. This explain the rather general quality of the recipes.
As told in previous mails, I would not use Dang Gui but Gui Wui or Dang Gui tails, much better.
Dragon Blood (Bai Ji, Sanguis Draconis) is a very powerful ingredient and a forbidden Herb to sell, in the West. Really powerful ingredient. With the 18% percentage, it said more then the rest. This ingredient have the specific quality to stop bleeding, but also being used in case of burns. In fact it is as powerful as San Qi!!!! The most important aspect is that it is COOLING. Meaning that it can be used in first stage (acute) syndromes. Meaning, perfect for Saam Sing or conditioning exercises, especially after the conditioning (so not before!).
Aloe (Lu Hui): is just a great ingredient, bitter and cold. So again a sign that this formula is good for the first ten days after injury. My student have it in its room, and when he got burns or open wounds, he cut a part of and spread the juice over the injury. Powerfull!
Catechu Gambir (A Xian Yao), is a local ingredient and said something about the region where it comes from. Not many Die Da formulas use this, and I personally would not choose for this too. But okay, we all have our favourite combinations.
Catechu give a nice color to the Jiu, it looks blacker. It have a neutral quality and mainly use for external applications. The percentage is low, which mean it should be very toxic, or there are other purposes. The last one is correct. I think it is mainly use to impress the patients that the Jiu is aging for a long time. It is NOT toxic.
You bought a common recipes, and if it doesn’t smell, then you have the Die Da formula you want.
Warm regards,
Evert.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 3, 2004 8:58:33 GMT -5
I grow a bunch of Lu Hui in my nursery. I eat them as a in-between snack. My wife use them on her face - arrrghhhh. She read that it is good for keeping skin young and blah blah blah. Wasting food if you ask me.  |
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Post by Nataraya on Nov 3, 2004 9:04:11 GMT -5
Eric,
Don't get me wrong, one other purpuse is that it contracts furuncles, and is use for eczema and dermal ulcer. So it is good for the skin. Also keep on chewing, then your stool will keep on flowing, hahahahaha.
The skin is controlled by the Lung, so it is good for the Lungs too.
But if you eat too much, then your skill become black, and they start talking African to you, hahahahaha.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 3, 2004 9:09:52 GMT -5
Ha, I am beginning to doubt your knowledge of TCM. I think Carlsberg is good in purging bowels. The skin turning black theory is only credible after heavy Carlsberg session which is suppose to start soon here. Now where are my students ? They are suppose to "respect" me with half a dozen cans tonight.  |
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Post by pitbull on Nov 3, 2004 18:29:18 GMT -5
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Post by pitbull on Nov 4, 2004 3:19:41 GMT -5
about the iron rings...how do you use them? what are they for? are these the predecessors for the arm/legweights that we have now?
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 4, 2004 3:29:37 GMT -5
Pictures from Evert. I will leave him to do the talking about these.     Eric ni hao Almost similar ways of training. For the shin, we use coconut tree log. Cheers. |
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Looks like Plum Blossom Stakes or Shaolin Stakes. Need your comment here.
