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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 13, 2004 22:39:12 GMT -5
Thanks ! After I posted I looked online and found this passage. "...DaMo (Chinese for Buddha) invented another type of chi kung called Xi Shui Jin or "Essence of Bone Washing," an internal exercise designed to cleanse the body..." I thought DaMo was another name for Bodhidharma... I know he brought Ch'an teachings to China. Hungfist ni hao Yes Da Mo is Chinese name for Bodhidharma Chadili. People seldom include his last name (Chadili). Chan Buddhism is a Chinese school of Mahayana Buddhism which asserts that enlightenment can be attained through meditation, self-contemplation and intuition, rather than through study of scripture. Chan is called Zen in Japan. It is said that Chan's root is in India, it's tree/growth in China and it's fruit in Japan. Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 18, 2004 7:27:00 GMT -5
Hi all, Okay, finally got the "Fut Gar Lor Hon" Cd from a Kung Fu brother in Hong Kong. Viewed it briefly and straightaway "Hop Gar" comes to mind. Anyway, if I look thru' Shaolin Lohan lenses, I'll have to say "Big Lohan". Thanks.
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Post by Nataraya on Nov 20, 2004 5:04:46 GMT -5
“…….Chin Tse Chen demonstrated one style of Lo Han Boxing in front of Miao Hsing. The grandmaster clapped his hands in praise of him. They then ambled to the abbey where Chin fell to the knees to show respect for the grandmaster and asked for guidance. The grandmaster bade chin to rise to his feet and said: You are well versed in pugilism, but as your skill is passed down through wandering warriors by a roundabout course, the essential points have all been lost.”<br>The fact is that there are 18 styles of Lohan pugilism, or Hsing Kung. These are the insane, mad, wild, desperate, idiotic, drunken, and other lohans. The set was passed down from Jen Huang Shi of prehistoric time and is called Huang Men Hsing Kung pugilism. Its formula runs like this:
The head should be like waves, The hands like shooting stars, The body like a soft willow branch, The feet like those of a drunkard, …………..
The blow starts from the mind and id dealt from disposition.”<br> That is to say, all actions are natural. In exercise, “the fist does not follow a fixed course. It is long in one instant and short……………., etceteras.
A little impression of Lo Han Boxing…….
Warmest regards,
Feng Tien Ke. ( euh sorry, Evert, hahahahaha)
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Post by Eric Ling on Jan 7, 2005 6:25:42 GMT -5
Another Shaolin 18 Lohan Hands system:-
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Post by Nataraya on Jan 7, 2005 10:31:42 GMT -5
Below you will see the late grandmaster Chan Tai San, doing some skills from Daai Lo han Kuen. (source: IKF, october 1996, page 38- 41) 1. Tong Ji Baai Faht: child prays to Buddha, 2. Jyu geng Sau: 3. Pulling hands back 4. Pushing palms forward, 5. Bring hands into chamber, 6. Lo Han Baai Faht: Boddhisatva praying to Buddha, 7. Fun Chui: seperating fists, 8. Kaap Chui: stamping fists, 9. Pao Chu": cannon fist, 10. Chyun Chui: cannon fist, 11. Nau ma: twist stance, 12. Preparing for Chaai Teui: (side kick). Warm regards, Evert.
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Post by Eric Ling on Jan 7, 2005 19:02:11 GMT -5
Evert,
This is a Hop Gar form. China released a couple of Hop Gar forms CD recently and this is one of them.
Yes, very "Lohan" in texture and rightly named "Dai" or "Big" Lohan.
I think only Lama Pai (GM Lo) lines has "Small"Lohan with shorter movements - if I am not mistaken.
I got a book on Hop Gar lying around somewhere where they feature many long range "Flying Crane" like techniques that include bumping with the shoulders etc...
I'll see whether I can find it and post some pics.
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Post by Nataraya on Jan 14, 2005 13:15:31 GMT -5
As the cover of the next book clearly show, is that it presents the Tiger Boxing and Lo han style of the beggar's soceity or Wanderers school. A very nice book to have in your archive. Stances are not that good from the youngster, but the information and postures explain more. So at first glance you see not a good book, but it hides much more then you might think or know. Attached also some postures from the 18 hands of Lo Han: Regards, Evert.
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Post by namsiulamkuen on Feb 7, 2005 9:10:30 GMT -5
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 7, 2005 10:22:46 GMT -5
Yes nslk, We are familiar with that site. The monk you see is the Late Ven. Sek, my SiaoLim GrandMaster. SiaoLim is my first style Kung Fu. Simon is the other SiaoLim brother in this forum. I was told that Ven Sek knew he was passing and arrange for a photgrapher to shoot the full 108 postures of his beloved Lohan Koon for future SiaoLim disciples. What a GREAT SiaoLim GrandMaster!
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Post by TenTigers on Feb 7, 2005 11:12:45 GMT -5
Eric, could you please post the link for the site that the LoHon DVD is on? I have seen that site before, and they had quite a few interesting vids. Thanx
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 7, 2005 11:21:45 GMT -5
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Post by mickeykh on Feb 7, 2005 20:22:30 GMT -5
[quote author=Eric Ling My Shaolin teacher was Chong Beng Joo - the close-door disciple of Ven. Sek. [/quote]
Hi... great to know u.. i see we used to share the same master...... do u know wang ming fatt?? I am now in australia-sydney...... hope to hear frm U again
I only focus on a few forms despite the great varieties.....I prefer the "nanquanbeitui", :yisimei", lainhua shou" & a few ......they are enuff for homework..... I prefer using the palm like my sifu, he is known for his palm & fist.....
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 7, 2005 20:57:04 GMT -5
Hi... great to know u.. i see we used to share the same master...... do u know wang ming fatt?? I am now in australia-sydney...... hope to hear frm U again I only focus on a few forms despite the great varieties.....I prefer the "nanquanbeitui", :yisimei", lainhua shou" & a few ......they are enuff for homework..... I prefer using the palm like my sifu, he is known for his palm & fist..... Hi mickeykh, Welcome to the forum. I was with Ah Joo many years ago in Safra Tao Payoh. Yes I am familiar with Ah Lee/Ah Huat and Lawrence. My favorite after "namkoonpaktui" and "Lian Huay koon" is Lohan. Before Ah Joo, I was in Namyang SiaoLim way way back when I was just a teenager. Familiar with Wang Mei Ping, the Siaolim brother who went to China and compete in traditional forms. Came in champ doing "18 bronzemen". Mei Ping and I were in the same batch. The Shuhu at that time was Kheng Huan and Tien Kao. My dad was the one who insisted that I do SiaoLim. He knew Sigung and spoke very highly of him always. In particular, my dad wanted me to pick up Lohan. Said it will help me when I learn the family's Whopping Crane. Hehehehe, still trying to figure that one out...... Are you teaching in Aussieland? Thank you.
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Post by mickeykh on Feb 7, 2005 23:03:40 GMT -5
Hi mickeykh, Welcome to the forum. I was with Ah Joo many years ago in Safra Tao Payoh. Yes I am familiar with Ah Lee/Ah Huat and Lawrence. My favorite after "namkoonpaktui" and "Lian Huay koon" is Lohan. Hahah, These ppl are still around & we meet annualy at CHY at simo ( still alive) house & then go ro Roland siheng hse at CHangi for makan! I remember Safra too tat is where I started at age 15. the floor was hard in teh court liek the temple where cracks grounds are everywhere...... Before Ah Joo, I was in Namyang SiaoLim way way back when I was just a teenager. The Shuhu at that time was Kheng Huan and Tien Kao. Thses sisuk are still around especially Tien Kao who used to help heal all my injuries. he is good man. My dad was the one who insisted that I do SiaoLim. He knew Sigung and spoke very highly of him always. In particular, my dad wanted me to pick up Lohan. Said it will help me when I learn the family's Whopping Crane. Hehehehe, still trying to figure that one out...... Are you teaching in Aussieland? Sigh...unfortunately...I only knew Sigung from Pics & praying at the temple, Sifu is now in the same altar as sigung...Sigung is a funny man who teaches different moves in the same form ( which I discovered many decades later). Yur dad can't be more right cos it also helps me in mastering other too. The basics are very empowering. & helps to boost my powess & energy level when I need it....hehehe Nope, I am not teaching anywhere cos I dun consider myself good enough & furthermore, I just keep fit & prioritsie my family 1st..... hard training days are over for my age now....
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 7, 2005 23:13:33 GMT -5
Do you know Sifu Teo Choon Teck / San Cheen Do ?
Tai Chor is the other CKF that I did for many years.
Ah Joo and Ah Teck were “buddies” once. Sadly, among all my Sifus only Ah Teck , Sifu Lee Wen Shi (very old now), Sifu Seah Choon Cheok and my dad are still around.
What other styles are you in?
Are you in AussieLand for good?
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