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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 1, 2004 19:28:37 GMT -5
Hi Comrades, Picture of late Sifu Siu – courtesy of Shaolin Monk in Dutch disguise, Evert. See the problem in not speaking in one common dialect? I thought Evert meant Siow Hong San – a Shaolin bukoan in Singapore. Anyway, it’s my fault. Should have remembered that Evert is Cantonese. I am Fuzhou, really more comfortable speaking in Fukien, Teochew and Mandarin, The late GM Siu was the Sifu who taught Bruce Lee a bunch of Chinese Kung Fu in the US. If I not wrong, these included some Bak Pai like Tam Tui, Jit Kuen…. And some Choy Li Fut folks also insisted that GM Siu taught Bruce Lee some CLF techniques. And during Bruce Lee’s heydays, I read that there were some “disputes” in Hong Kong between CLF and Wing Chun. Bruce Lee did some techniques in his movies that both camps claim to be source. For instance in “Return of the Dragon” he did a few reverse elbow slapping. Wing Chun said this is a modified “Bong Sau” where CLF was reported naming this as “Po-on Sau”. If you have seen some of Bruce Lee documentaries, there is one that he did a audition in front of some TV executives. He did a little of Jit Kuen – standard JinWoo Northern Shaolin form.  |
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Post by pitbull on Nov 1, 2004 20:04:00 GMT -5
now i know where the common factor between ang gar and NCK came from...its definitely lohan as i suspected!
the fukienese who tought tie sien to an ang gar master mustve been a lohan player
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Post by Nataraya on Nov 2, 2004 6:23:37 GMT -5
Eric,
Why did you attached the pictures of me? I did ask you NOT to do, this doesn't feel good at all. In fact I am a bit angry.
I send you the form because you was wondering about the form "18 hands of Lo Han". You know me, I am a closed door teacher. I prefer to stay that way, in the shadow. I have ABSOLUTELY not a problem that people dont know me. I am just a passenger fulffilling my oath.
My photo's doesn't have any additional or functional worth, it just doesn't feel good. Please remove those pictures, Eric!
I have no problems of triggering practitioners to develop their view more. Sometimes giving a broader direction. Me, I am nobody. Just one of the many practitioners.
Please don't do this anymore, it feel embarissing. I prefer the old way of communication between us, really. No way of losing face, constructive environment, no ego's just a warmth place.
So, if its up to me, then close the door.
Evert.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 2, 2004 8:44:05 GMT -5
Hi Evert, First off, sorry.  I really miss the part about not posting the pictures. I just got back from the field and first thing I did was read your mail. I saw the pictures and ASSUME that it was meant for the forum. Poor excuse I know but nevertheless the truth. Please accept my humble apology. Maybe this is the sign I am looking for. Maybe it is time to leave the forum alone to run it's own course. I, like you, miss the way we use to communicate. Or should I say, our Kung Fu talking to each other. Again, my friend, sorry. |
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Post by pitbull on Nov 2, 2004 18:22:25 GMT -5
i liked the pictures :-)
never thought that bruce lee was caucasian :-)
how old are you in the pics? mid 30's?
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Post by nothingness on Nov 2, 2004 18:57:22 GMT -5
May I have the 18 Lohan picture again just as a reference?
Thanks
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 2, 2004 19:03:14 GMT -5
Hi nothingness,
Sorry, gotta wait for okay from Evert.
Those pictures were mistakenly posted - it was meant for my private collection.
I think the pictures were great, Evert with hair and everything hehehe.......
But got to respect the man and his wishes.
And here is something else, for all you Karate folks who have been saying that some of your kata came from Shaolin, this is one form that you really should be investigating.
Thank you.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 2, 2004 21:15:43 GMT -5
Hi, The cover of a new Lohan video just out. The cover says "Fo Jia Lohan" which I take to mean Hop Gar or Lama Pai. Don't have this one yet but will post some grabs once I receive this. You see, as a martial art "Tau Pek Kong" I get tons of videos every month from Kung Fu friends from all over - including China.   |
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Post by Hungfist on Nov 11, 2004 15:56:31 GMT -5
I have been reading information about Lohan and have become puzzled. I enjoy learning the history of gongfu and would like to ask a question.
I was reading about Choy Li Fut and found a passage about "eki-kinkyo." When I looked for a definition of this I found that it related to Lohan - but I am not sure in what way.
I found some things on the internet but one - at least in any language I can read - is an Okinawan Karate Site -Is this a Japanese term?
The other site is a Tibetian White Crane site, but I cant find the reference eki-kinkyo online there.
How is eki-kinkyo connected to Lohan-if at all?
I also found this - Sup-Pat-Lo-Han-Sow - what is this?
As Always I am not as enlightened as I would like to be.
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Post by essence on Nov 11, 2004 23:26:52 GMT -5
I have been reading information about Lohan and have become puzzled. I enjoy learning the history of gongfu and would like to ask a question. I was reading about Choy Li Fut and found a passage about "eki-kinkyo." When I looked for a definition of this I found that it related to Lohan - but I am not sure in what way. I found some things on the internet but one - at least in any language I can read - is an Okinawan Karate Site -Is this a Japanese term? The other site is a Tibetian White Crane site, but I cant find the reference eki-kinkyo online there. How is eki-kinkyo connected to Lohan-if at all? I also found this - Sup-Pat-Lo-Han-Sow - what is this? As Always I am not as enlightened as I would like to be. Good day Hungfist. To me, eki-kinkyo sounds Japanese. Sup Pat Lo Han Sow means 18 Lohan hands in Cantonese. Can anyone elaborate more on the Japanese part? Warmest regards, Tze Hou |
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 12, 2004 4:25:56 GMT -5
Good day Hungfist. To me, eki-kinkyo sounds Japanese. Sup Pat Lo Han Sow means 18 Lohan hands in Cantonese. Can anyone elaborate more on the Japanese part? Warmest regards, Tze Hou Da jia ni men hao Sup Pat lo Han Sow = 18 Lohan hands, yes it's Cantonese. The mandarin term is Se Pa Lo Han Sow. In the past I read about "eki-kinkyo". It's Japanese term for "training of body and spirit", but other translate it as "sinew changing course". ? Someone with deeper understanding of Japanese please help! Cheers.  |
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Post by essence on Nov 12, 2004 4:45:00 GMT -5
Da jia ni men hao Sup Pat lo Han Sow = 18 Lohan hands, yes it's Cantonese. The mandarin term is Se Pa Lo Han Sow. In the past I read about "eki-kinkyo". It's Japanese term for "training of body and spirit", but other translate it as "sinew changing course". ? Someone with deeper understanding of Japanese please help! Cheers. Good day people. Sinew changing? Is it the equivalent of Damo's Bone Washing (or something similar?) This is getting very interesting. Warmest regards, Tze Hou |
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Post by Hungfist on Nov 13, 2004 17:19:55 GMT -5
Good day people. Sinew changing? Is it the equivalent of Damo's Bone Washing (or something similar?) This is getting very interesting. What does Bone Washing mean? I am not familiar with this...any help? |
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 13, 2004 21:14:11 GMT -5
Hungfist ni hao
It's the name for set of exercise which said was created by Da Mo.
Cheers.
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Post by Hungfist on Nov 13, 2004 22:30:35 GMT -5
Hungfist ni hao It's the name for set of exercise which said was created by Da Mo. Cheers. Thanks ! After I posted I looked online and found this passage. "...DaMo (Chinese for Buddha) invented another type of chi kung called Xi Shui Jin or "Essence of Bone Washing," an internal exercise designed to cleanse the body..." I thought DaMo was another name for Bodhidharma... I know he brought Ch'an teachings to China. |
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