jeff
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A very rare Tiger!
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Post by jeff on Nov 8, 2004 10:19:47 GMT -5
Eric,
i've only been involved in Hung Fut now for a couple of months ,so i really haven't gotten that far yet ,i've only learned the first form Sup Gee Kuen.
I like Hung Fut so much because it blends well with my Black Tiger ,we share alot of similar techniques. We also share some forms actually (weapons)
But, also like they have a One Armed Form as well as a Iron Wire form ,so do we.
But of course they use alot more palms than we do. ;D
jeff:)
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 8, 2004 12:42:00 GMT -5
Oh okay Jeff.
Let's talk Hak Fu Mun.
Remember reading and seeing some pix of your "Sup Yim Kuen" the 10 animals form.
Don't have the mag with me but I think there is a "elephant" and "lion" in that form.
Are you familiar with Chan Sing - the Hong Kong actor in the 70s. He also did some 10 animals with those 2.
The same?
What about Kwan Tak Hing's 10 animals?
Meeting you and I am just like a kid lost in a candy store. ;D ;D ;D
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jeff
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Post by jeff on Nov 8, 2004 15:30:13 GMT -5
Oh okay Jeff. Let's talk Hak Fu Mun. Remember reading and seeing some pix of your "Sup Yim Kuen" the 10 animals form. Don't have the mag with me but I think there is a "elephant" and "lion" in that form. Are you familiar with Chan Sing - the Hong Kong actor in the 70s. He also did some 10 animals with those 2. The same? What about Kwan Tak Hing's 10 animals? Meeting you and I am just like a kid lost in a candy store. ;D ;D ;D Eric, Yeah our 10 animals are tiger,crane,leopard,dragon,snake,horse,elephant,eagle,monkey,and lion. I've never seen either of those two 10 animals. I know who they are i've just never seen they're 10 animals. I'd like to see any articles you might have ,i don't know how we could do that ,but i'd love to see some of the old articles. jeff:)
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Post by pitbull on Nov 8, 2004 19:43:43 GMT -5
i really would like to see horse elephant lion are there photos? what are the trademarks?
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Post by Nataraya on Nov 9, 2004 3:44:31 GMT -5
Pitbull,
We have two Siu lam forms known as Gau Ng Ying Kuen and gau Sap Ying Kuen. Both forms are no part of Hung Ga Kuen, although some Hung Kuen teachers do have the form, but keep it secretly. Again VERY strange to do this with such a lovely form. One of the teachers that hide it - in technical sense - is Victor Chong from Singapore. I had the dioscussion withj one of his Sihings many years ago. He told me that his teacher did talk about it, but his student was never able to see it. I gave him details of the form...
Bu the way gau means "old" and refers to the pre Wong Fei Hung time. In fact it is linked with the old Five Animal section as done in Hung ga Kuen. The problem is that the current Wong Fei Hung Ng Ying Kuen is much more then it ever was.
Okay, about The five 'extra' animals. We start with the Lion section. Significant are the claws and the jumping hiding the knee kick in it. The pattern is done in 45 degrees direction and mirrorized. Some panther and water skills, then we are heading the Elephant skill. In totally you will see eight skills. Empasis is made on sinking, heavy, and swinging arms. The arms present a swinging 'nose' (sorry do not know the English name), and the teeth. Power and stamping is tremendously, and do truly resemble that nature of that animal. Without any other skill between we launch directly into the Horse came. This animal is GREAT. The arm do present the hoofs, so every skill is launched in two arm skills. The hips plays a LEADING rol, with much truning and swifting. Soft at the beginning, VERY hard at the end, all done in a kind of swinging modus.
After this you will enter the monkey, deer, and tigercat. In between several tiger, crane and Lohan skills. Especially the Crane skills are beautiful at the end of the form. the whole form contains about 243 postures.
Kind regards,
Evert.
Note: there was once published an article in real Kung Fu. I did my best to trace this Hung Kuen teacher in Canada, but no luck. Really love to meet the man and see what his information is behind this form. Secondly, do anyone know Victor Chong from Singapore? I have somewhere on a backup a folder of this teacher. he have students in Poland........
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Post by revolusean on Nov 9, 2004 19:43:15 GMT -5
Hello -
My name is Sean. I am originally from Las Vegas, NV, now living in Seattle/Tacoma area WA state. I am a musician. I pretty much play anything I can get my hands on, though I primarily play guitar and bass.
I have been studying Hung Gar for a few years under my father, who learned Hung Kuen and Choy Li Fut from Ed Lane.
I am currently in my 2nd year in College and will hopefully transfer to the UW in the next year.
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Post by pitbull on Nov 9, 2004 20:10:43 GMT -5
Pitbull, We have two Siu lam forms known as Gau Ng Ying Kuen and gau Sap Ying Kuen. Both forms are no part of Hung Ga Kuen, although some Hung Kuen teachers do have the form, but keep it secretly. Again VERY strange to do this with such a lovely form. One of the teachers that hide it - in technical sense - is Victor Chong from Singapore. I had the dioscussion withj one of his Sihings many years ago. He told me that his teacher did talk about it, but his student was never able to see it. I gave him details of the form... Bu the way gau means "old" and refers to the pre Wong Fei Hung time. In fact it is linked with the old Five Animal section as done in Hung ga Kuen. The problem is that the current Wong Fei Hung Ng Ying Kuen is much more then it ever was. Okay, about The five 'extra' animals. We start with the Lion section. Significant are the claws and the jumping hiding the knee kick in it. The pattern is done in 45 degrees direction and mirrorized. Some panther and water skills, then we are heading the Elephant skill. In totally you will see eight skills. Empasis is made on sinking, heavy, and swinging arms. The arms present a swinging 'nose' (sorry do not know the English name), and the teeth. Power and stamping is tremendously, and do truly resemble that nature of that animal. Without any other skill between we launch directly into the Horse came. This animal is GREAT. The arm do present the hoofs, so every skill is launched in two arm skills. The hips plays a LEADING rol, with much truning and swifting. Soft at the beginning, VERY hard at the end, all done in a kind of swinging modus. After this you will enter the monkey, deer, and tigercat. In between several tiger, crane and Lohan skills. Especially the Crane skills are beautiful at the end of the form. the whole form contains about 243 postures. Kind regards, Evert. Note: there was once published an article in real Kung Fu. I did my best to trace this Hung Kuen teacher in Canada, but no luck. Really love to meet the man and see what his information is behind this form. Secondly, do anyone know Victor Chong from Singapore? I have somewhere on a backup a folder of this teacher. he have students in Poland........ sounds very interesting to me....anybody heard of a crab style?
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 10, 2004 3:37:23 GMT -5
Hello - My name is Sean. I am originally from Las Vegas, NV, now living in Seattle/Tacoma area WA state. I am a musician. I pretty much play anything I can get my hands on, though I primarily play guitar and bass. I have been studying Hung Gar for a few years under my father, who learned Hung Kuen and Choy Li Fut from Ed Lane. I am currently in my 2nd year in College and will hopefully transfer to the UW in the next year. Sean ni hao Warmest welcome to you to the family. Not many people do both martial and music. Cheers.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 10, 2004 3:39:09 GMT -5
sounds very interesting to me....anybody heard of a crab style? Pitbull ni hao Which one did you mean CRAB or CRAP? Cheers.
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Post by pitbull on Nov 10, 2004 3:51:22 GMT -5
crab :-)
i have seen many crap styles..some became famous some died out...
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 10, 2004 4:30:47 GMT -5
crab :-) i have seen many crap styles..some became famous some died out... Pitbull ni hao Are you positive, CRAB style? Long time ago I've read (in different forum), they also talked about CRAB style, but I prefer Chilli Crab or Crab steamed with wine, yumbo Cheers.
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Post by revolusean on Nov 10, 2004 15:26:07 GMT -5
Sean ni hao Warmest welcome to you to the family. Not many people do both martial and music. Cheers. Hello to you too - hehe - thank you for the welcome after a few years, it seemed to me that music and martial arts were almost the same thing.. Im surprised more of us aren't musicians Sean
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 10, 2004 17:01:30 GMT -5
Hi Sean, Sorry, a bit slow in welcoming you to the family. Yes, I've been known to damage a few guitars in my younger days - more out of frustrations.... Again, welcome and we look forward to your sharing.
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Post by revolusean on Nov 10, 2004 19:47:53 GMT -5
Hi Sean, Sorry, a bit slow in welcoming you to the family. Yes, I've been known to damage a few guitars in my younger days - more out of frustrations.... Again, welcome and we look forward to your sharing. Hi Eric, much appreciated i've had a lot of fun reading thru the forum.. it's great to see so many knowlegable people sharing ideas.. and dont worry, broken guitars are reincarnated as toothpics thanks! Sean
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 11, 2004 3:48:17 GMT -5
Sean ni hao If you don't mind, tell us more about your music. The type, instrument, etc. Xie xie. Cheers.
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