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Post by DF on Feb 5, 2005 19:05:13 GMT -5
Here is the couplet saying hanging by our altar :
Hand like wind blowing on candle, feet step like floating cloud.
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Post by clfsean on Feb 5, 2005 22:14:17 GMT -5
Here's our couplet...
The strong fist release out like a tiger raising its head The graceful staff flies like a dragon whipping its tail
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 6, 2005 4:07:03 GMT -5
The one that comes to the surface 9in my current mental stage) is:
Yuk Hok Chi Yau Hang .........(Cantonese).
"For learning and understanding, you need perseverance".
Evert.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Feb 6, 2005 4:35:41 GMT -5
Errrrh are we talking martial arts or something else here? Da jia ni men hao IMHO, in the past most of the martial techniques disguised as poems and or songs, or meaningless sentences (for outsider of the system.) Here is another one: In stillness be like the mountain. In movements be like the clouds and water. Cheers.
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Post by Mercury on Feb 6, 2005 7:26:05 GMT -5
The basic fighting principles of my school are based on how to react to the action to the opponent. So I think therefore it is more defensive that offensive in nature.
To empathise with the opponent by being aware of their action and posture. By empathising with them, the opponent’s intention may be received. To retreat or close with them so as to control the distance. When they change, I change, seeking to maintain a defensive posture where my arms and legs cross the ‘lines of projection’ of potential attack.
Moving in, paying attention to receive an attack so as not to be hit. Crossing the opponents legs with my own then pressing and sticking so they have difficulty in kicking or changing. Crossing the opponent’s arms, touching, pressing and sticking so they have difficulty is striking. Maybe waiting a split second to feel their intention, i.e. the gathering of their strength, controlling this and then lastly to attack.
I use legs more to defend, enter and generate power from the ground using a little drop and then directing the recoil up through the body to the target, generally letting it issue from a joint be it ankle, knee, hip, shoulder, elbow or wrist.
I feel that these are some of the principles that I use as a Goju Karate player. However I feel that these are basic principles common to many Southern Chinese styles. Which although often spoken of in Karate are seldom practised or applied by teachers. Usually I think karate is more offensive and uses maximum force and speed to attack directly, in an attempt to break down and through the opponents defensives. Hitting with one technique.
No one best principle, but different.
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Post by TenTigers on Feb 6, 2005 23:04:06 GMT -5
here is one I like: "when your opponent moves in-you move in. when your opponent moves out-you move in. when yur opponent stands still, you move in!" (Kinda like when your teacher at school would say. "Do you do that at home?" "yes" "Well, don't do it here" "Do you do that at home?" "no" "Well, don't do it here!"
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 6, 2005 23:24:05 GMT -5
here is one I like: "when your opponent moves in-you move in. when your opponent moves out-you move in. when yur opponent stands still, you move in!" (Kinda like when your teacher at school would say. "Do you do that at home?" "yes" "Well, don't do it here" "Do you do that at home?" "no" "Well, don't do it here!" Like it too. Will like it even more if I know something about you. Come on, I am a old man, don't make me beg. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by TenTigers on Feb 7, 2005 0:52:17 GMT -5
Hi Eric! yeah, the profiles don't really give you space to talk about yourself. I don't really like to anyway, but since I am a newbie, and also since you are the administrator...aww what the heck! I'm 47, from New York, been studying Martial Arts since I was about 15, studied here, and there,started in Bak Siu Lum for 2 1/2 yrs(at least that's what the guy who taught me called it, to this day I really have no idea what it was, but it gave me a start) studied TKD & HapKiDo,Tang Soo Do,Kyukushin-kai, Hakko-Ryu Jiu-Jutsu,a smatterring of BakMei, Wing Chun,CLF,Yang Tai Chi,Chang Chiao-Tung Ba-Gua,and Sayoc Kali, but I have been imersed in Hung-Ga for the past 20 yrs or so, studying under people like Micheal Manganiello, Frank Yee, and Tsang Wai-Ming, who also taught LSW branch as well as CLF-Hung-Sing-Chan family, I believe. I am just scratching the surface with my Hung-Ga, and each day is day one.
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Post by small on Feb 7, 2005 10:48:49 GMT -5
Hello Mercury,
Interesting! Thank you for sharing. I feel that I have several similar concepts in what I do, but different tactics. I'd love to see your style in person. Is there clubs in North America?
What shape is your fighting stances for close range?
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Post by PaulH on Feb 10, 2005 2:56:36 GMT -5
WC popular and very rich motto: "Receive what comes, escort what goes, when hands free thrust forward."
This one depends on your growth, understanding, and experience. How do you receive force? Hawkin Cheung once commented that "while he is shouting loudly, I only whisper." I personally see how he touched hands with other people. It feels like just a finger pressing lightly on your arm throughout. Many people tried hard with force and speed to pin him down only to find his fingers jokingly pinched their nose or slapped their face.
Escort what goes - What goes out, goes back. If you stay with him when he attacks, he will bring your hand back to him sooner or later... I leave this to your imagination.
Thrust forward when free - This really revolves around your level of awareness. One can goes through doors most easily when they are empty. Most normal people keep banging on closed doors.
Regards, =)
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 12, 2005 10:32:31 GMT -5
Got a article here from Hong Kong Tai Chi Plum Blossom Mantis style :-
Another difference between our styles and others is our intense focus on the technique of close- contact-combat. Our contact tactics is called “attack by interception” which combines the attack and the defense actions, so as to block or terminate our enemy’s attacking movement during counter attack. In addition, we emphasize a lot on shortening our attacking route. In order to minimize the time of the attack and to do a faster strike, we will reduce the forearm drawback distance in between each attacking action. As the attack route is shortened, the acceleration distance is also shortened. Under normal circumstance, the force generated would be less strong with less momentum. However, with the application of the Tai Chi theory, we use the whole body to generate the power and then transfer the power by our body limbs in spiral line. To note, if we measure the distance from our feet to our hand, the acceleration distance is good enough to generate the strong force. In addition, as the force moves in spiral line, it will increase in strength. The ultimate objective that our style is persevering, is that our body can be trained to become full of tension, just like a balloon, which can dissolve or rebound any external force applied to us. During the time we prepare to attack, our body could act like we have a spring inside which could be compressed and released. In this way, we can act (attack) and react (defense with counter attack) as we like.
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Post by Hungfist on Feb 13, 2005 3:44:38 GMT -5
OK - here is my take on this subject.
Sun Tzu - Attack him where he is unprepared
My Sifu - 2 hits in every fight. Hit them, they hit the floor/pavement/dirt.
Power comes from the hips and the shoulders.
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Post by mickeykh on Feb 13, 2005 5:11:14 GMT -5
Here is my couplet..handed to me in 1992.
In chinese " Yingyang sen siang ke...Bi yao wo si sai" In english.." Ying yang lives & kill each other...it must be in my own free will"
In chinese" Yi gang si rou, yi rou si gang" In english " Use hard to beat soft, use soft to overcome hard"
In chinese" Gang song dai rou, rou song dai gang" In english" In hard comes soft, in soft comes hard"
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Post by meltdawn on Feb 17, 2005 22:06:02 GMT -5
"fighting principles" to me means good foundation that is so well-trained, ingrained and understood that no reasoning takes place when it is truly needed.
if someone comes up behind you and you don't hear them, you are by nature defensive in your re-action. when you are mad at someone to a high degree (could be a threat to a loved one), you are offensive. who knows what situation will elicit what action?
my teacher says first, "no chicken", or "be brave". second is be strong. only third is skill, kung fu. being a small woman, i have learned first-hand that this is truth.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Feb 18, 2005 5:14:14 GMT -5
my teacher says first, "no chicken", or "be brave". second is be strong. only third is skill, kung fu. being a small woman, i have learned first-hand that this is truth. Meltdawn ni hao A very speciallwelcome to the forum. I'm sure you are the first female in this forum. Your sifu is very correct, in kungfu we have the term "Yi Dan, Er Li, San Gong Fu. " which means "First Bravery; second, Power; and third, Technique." Cheers.
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