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Post by Fatman on Feb 2, 2005 21:06:08 GMT -5
Yay another fencer! The advice on parry ripste is also what my teacher always tells me, but i'm too lazy to learn my parry riposte properly My favourite weapon is epee, and my style is dashing in and out. I must admit that my experience in fencing is very limited - once a week for a year. Never got beyond foil, so the parry-riposte was crucial, as is maintaining right of attack (neither of which are as big an issue in epee from what I understand). I enjoyed fencing but was never going to get too serious about it, and it is too expensive a sport. My first love will always be NCK.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 2, 2005 21:16:08 GMT -5
I personally like the saying " but dong but gar/don't block, don't bridge". Fighting is personal and I believe the way one fight is an expression of one's personality. peace DF Hahahaha Dixon, very good. I have not heard "don't block, don't bridge" in a while. Thanks. The other version would be "No technique, no posture but just one strike". Sounds like a gun. I got one for you and this came from a Kung Fu friend; His principle : "To win every fight or make sure his opponent loses everyone". ;D ;D ;D "Whatever it takes" is his principle.hahahahaha No laughing matter for him. A National Lei Tai champion in Singapore for many years. Went to China during the early days of SanDa and even without fully knowing the scoring system, came in runner up silver medalist. Personally I think he was defeated by the system. Saw the video and him flooring his opponent numerous times in the finals. My friend? Andy Tan of San Cheen Do.
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Post by DF on Feb 2, 2005 21:43:46 GMT -5
Here is one from my younger days: the hands are two fan door, all strikes are from the legs.
However as i get older i prefer the no touch no block. Funny how things change as one gets old,lol.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 2, 2005 21:49:26 GMT -5
Here is one from my younger days: the hands are two fan door, all strikes are from the legs. However as i get older i prefer the no touch no block. Funny how things change as one gets old,lol. DF "the hands are two fan door, all strikes are from the legs." Let's talk about this a little. As a Southern stylist, how do you figure this? You know what they say; "Southern Fists, Northern Kicks".
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Post by DF on Feb 2, 2005 22:08:44 GMT -5
LOL Eric, BuckSing CLF is known as southern fist northern legs. Seriously, as I said earlier, fighting is personal. I am a small guy,5' 7. Most of my encounters were against much bigger American, where I need the strength of the kicks to cause the damage to end the fight. I think my approach to fighting is from the environment I grew up in. Being the smaller guy, I have to use more brain than muscle,lol. The beauty of kung fu is that it has something for all different size and shape. A funny note is that when I was fighting in kickboxing in my younger days agt opponents that are my size, the principles that I empolyed where more inline of bridge over bridge and no bridge straight in. I guess the bottom line is, one need to be flexiable in a fight and the principles use depends upon the type of opponent we face at that time.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 2, 2005 22:25:54 GMT -5
Hey Dixon,
I gotta go with you:-
• Personal as in “my truth cannot be your truth”…….. • Adaptable – cannot really choose how your opponent is going to fight.
But having said all that, the way you train must be guided by some principles.
Maybe you are at the “Using no principle as principle” level?
I was hoping to hear your interpretation of your idiom within the context of Southern styles.
The general perception is that Southerners are more adept in using their hands except maybe for Mok Gar…<br>
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 2, 2005 22:32:31 GMT -5
oooops, I think I did not understand your Buk Sing equals southern fists/northern kicks line properly.
Are you saying you guys train equally in both?
Is that why you have a "Buk" in your name?
Thanks. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by DF on Feb 2, 2005 23:09:05 GMT -5
Eric, Well I try to keep the history as short as I can just to give you an idea. CLF is a recent name, CLF official name is Fut Gar Jing Jung according to my teaching ( disclaimar: pls do not turn the history thing into a lineage war thing, history is history as it was taught thru diff lines, so if anyone history is diff ,pls do not take offense to it. Respect to everyone teaching is more important, since none of us were there to really know what happened.) Tarm Sam was a student of Hung Sing CLF in Futshan China. At that time, there were many Hung Sing Gwoon. Tarm Sam' school was located in Siu Buk Canton. Over time and at the suggestion of some of the students , it was decided that the Gwoon was called Buck Sing because of the location Siu Buck. Now the Northern influence was from Northern Shaoiln master Ku Ji Jeung ( Evert had a pic of him doing iron palm breaks on the other thread). Ku and Tarm sam were friends thru a meeting and exchanged students to learn each others arts. Tarm Sam was known for his charps and thus most of us Buck Sing students spent many hours in the art of Charp choy. There are many type of charps depend on the situation. Going back to the saying "no block no bridge", CLF is an aggressive style where we prefer to attack. It is like saying best defense is a good offense. As far as no bridge, I personally like the steal and leak methods of fighting thus the usage of toa lau charp. Also from a general interpertation of "no block no bridge" there is the second part of the saying that stated " once block or touch, many contacts follow." What it comes down to is that if I bridge for the sake of bridging, I am also giving up one of my weapon of attack toward the open area of the opponent. By definition as a person moves or attacks, he creats an opening. The saying tells us to take advantage of the momment in time and go for the kill. Because once you bridge, the stronger bridge will cross and if your opponent is stronger, then other methods must employ. Of course this saying does not cover every possible situations and at time bridging is needed.
Sorry for the long post, I should stop now,lol.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 2, 2005 23:17:07 GMT -5
Dixon, Thanks for that post. Don't worry about lineage war here. It's not going to happen. Say what you know and we share. My only "war" is with frauds - folks trying to boolshiz their stuff. Do that here and they get deleted - no discussions there. Please keep your posts coming - I am learning plenty. Thanks.
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Post by narval on Feb 3, 2005 3:29:44 GMT -5
Dragon: "If the enemy is weak, advance and attack into the centre. If the enemy is strong, retreat and attack the limps. If one cannot chu ( stick ), he does not attack. Once the Chu has been made, the attack follows instantly." Source : www.hku.hk/cmaclub/english/main-classroom.htm
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Post by Suhana LIM on Feb 4, 2005 19:25:00 GMT -5
Da jia ni men hao
As I've stated in my previous posting, I am a firm believer that the good fighting "principles" is how to avoid the fight to occurs.
But if that fail, and still have to enggage in a conflict, I only follows whatever come to me and neutralised them accordingly.
In the past I might applied all the so called "theories", but as decades passed, I am just following my body's natural movements and reactions. I apply NO FORMS, NO TECHNIQUES,WHATSOEVER anymore.
Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 4, 2005 22:40:57 GMT -5
Da jia ni men hao In the past I might applied all the so called "theories", but as decades passed, I am just following my body's natural movements and reactions. I apply NO FORMS, NO TECHNIQUES,WHATSOEVER anymore. Cheers. Wow just like Bruce Lee. ;D ;D ;D So everyone go "no forms, no techniques" and eventually "no tradtional CKF". Everybody just do their own thing. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Suhana LIM on Feb 5, 2005 3:04:41 GMT -5
Wow just like Bruce Lee. ;D ;D ;D So everyone go "no forms, no techniques" and eventually "no tradtional CKF". Everybody just do their own thing. ;D ;D ;D Eric ni hao ;D ;D ;D everybody just do their own thing with their own way at their own time and at their own place ;D ;D ;D No, no Bruce Lee. Not my style to imitate other people . Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 5, 2005 4:19:00 GMT -5
Eric ni hao ;D ;D ;D everybody just do their own thing with their own way at their own time and at their own place ;D ;D ;D . Cheers. Errrrh are we talking martial arts or something else here?
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Post by essence on Feb 5, 2005 6:32:47 GMT -5
Good day people.
Another little proverb to share with you guys.
Ren Dao Shou dao, Yan Dao Quan Dao.
When I reach, my hand reaches too. When my eye reaches, my fist reaches too.
Warmest regards, Tze Hou
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