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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 10, 2005 10:30:27 GMT -5
Hi Evert,
This is so funny. Remember I asked you about a Hung Gar form much earlier on in our correspondence?
I am not a “proper” Hung Gar student – never really “pai si”. Studied with a classmate’s grandfather way back when I was in Secondary school. We follow the British’s education system in Singapore (my time). So we are talking age 13 – 16.
I was taught only a few Hung Gar forms. There is 1 form that I am really curious about. According to my teacher, the form is called “Kong Yau Kuen” or roughly translated to mean “hard-soft fist”.
Much Hung Gar “1 finger” techniques but done in a slow and relaxed manner. The form uses mainly palm and finger works and certain portions, elbow lifting.
This teacher is no longer with us. And I am not able to find more info regarding this one form.
I am wondering whether he created the form or got it from his line’s Hung Gar.
All I know is that he was with the army in Canton before leaving for Singapore.
Anyone with knowledge of this?
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Post by DF on Feb 10, 2005 19:11:20 GMT -5
In Leung Datt's book, he mentioned that "southern kicks are shadowless and northern kicks fly."
In the Hung Gar system, the shadowless kick is regarded as treasure. It was said that Wong Fai Hung traded a lot of Hung Gar for these techniques. However during my time in the Hung Gar system, I have spoken with many different elders from the various WFH lines concerning this "no Shadow kick" and they all offer a different technique for it. The most common theory is kick with distraction. I do agree with that however, I find it very interesting that WFH would traded just for this concept that is very common. Having said all these, I also took notice in the no shadow kicks from other systems outside of Hung Gar. They also present the similar views of the distraction in the kicks as "no shadow". I like to ask the forum views on their system of this kick and also like to examine the different of southern kicks vs northern kicks.
Thks
DF
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 11, 2005 1:56:35 GMT -5
Goodmorning Dixon,
I absolutely agree with your observations, and had problems with the restricted view of colleagues/ practitioners about Shadowless kick. They only knew one kick, and that one should stay secret, hahahaha. I know several of them from different styles. I tried to find some pictures that Eric and I launched on this forum, but couldn't find it anymore. Bung Bu Kuen have a very nice one, and in Sap Fu jau are several versions of kicks, that comes along with a feint or simultaneus skill.
Regards,
Evert.
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