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Post by konghan on Jan 10, 2005 9:36:48 GMT -5
Good day everybody. konghan: I see your point. Avoiding and countering would be one of the main purposes I would imagine, thank you for pointing that out. I guess the real thing that makes me curious about this technique is that it takes quite a lot of commitment to execute as the position assumed is a very compromised one, assuming the kick misses and the exponent is caught. This could lead to very serious consequences including permanent paralysis, giving the vulnerability of the knee in such a position. In my humble opinion, I would think this technique would work best while retreating and the opponent is chasing you down to add the impact of the opponent running towards you and the delivery of the kick, plus, the opponent would hardly expect a kick while chasing you down. In this scenario, I would imagine lean the body down would give some balance as you are running away. Thoughts? Warmest regards, Tze Hou The side kick for me is the best kicking technigue compare to other type of kicks like round house, front kick, axe kick etc. becuase of the angle or position of your body which is in a side position it makes you a more difficult target also it give you the mobility to react. The side kick is good for both defense & offense, it can be use to target either the knee, mid section (hip), rib area or the head. The body being in horizontal not only give you a better defense against a counter attack but a good balance. If the kick missed, you are still protected because you are in your side allowing your fist to do the work & if your side kick get grab you'll be able to twist, put your weight foward or use it to stick & push your opponent away from you. Pay attention to many chinese san shou fighters the side kick is their signature kick & they use it so well that many attackers find it difficult to penetarte or counter their side kick.
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Post by pitbull on Jan 10, 2005 20:09:19 GMT -5
PS: i forgot to add this...sometimes,a scissors kick is exetued by means of a faked sidekick miss...i also found side kicks hard to defend bec of the silhouette of the person doing it...i also found that TKD doesnt have sidekicks and i dont know why...are sidekicks a chinese exclusive? i mean i do see sidekicks in japanese arts but not the way the chinese do it...
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Post by essence on Jan 11, 2005 4:21:24 GMT -5
Good day konghan.
When I did TKD, I remember having to do sidekicks as a drill, often a sidestep leading to a sidekick. Also, TKD's guarding stance usually has the exponent's side facing the opponent, thus it would be easy to employ a sidestep to bridge the distance before the kick. I think it comes down to the practitioners favourite kick.
Warmest regards, Tze Hou
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Post by pitbull on Jan 11, 2005 4:29:15 GMT -5
Good day konghan. When I did TKD, I remember having to do sidekicks as a drill, often a sidestep leading to a sidekick. Also, TKD's guarding stance usually has the exponent's side facing the opponent, thus it would be easy to employ a sidestep to bridge the distance before the kick. I think it comes down to the practitioners favourite kick. Warmest regards, Tze Hou i think that was for me hehehe ooops...i stood corrected :-) i said that bec i dont see sidekicks in TKD competitions here...why i dont know...
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Post by Suhana LIM on Jan 11, 2005 5:08:27 GMT -5
i think that was for me hehehe ooops...i stood corrected :-) i said that bec i dont see sidekicks in TKD competitions here...why i dont know...[/quote Da jia ni men hao Personally I prefer kick with the target waist and below. Higher that that, IMHO, only nice to look but not optimum as the strike. Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Jan 11, 2005 6:31:59 GMT -5
Ha Suhana kor kor, I just knew it - you and Pit must talk about xiao jie. Control yourselves ;D Here is a low scissor kick:-
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Post by konghan on Jan 11, 2005 9:37:07 GMT -5
i think that was for me hehehe ooops...i stood corrected :-) i said that bec i dont see sidekicks in TKD competitions here...why i dont know...[/quote Da jia ni men hao Personally I prefer kick with the target waist and below. Higher that that, IMHO, only nice to look but not optimum as the strike. Cheers. high kicks can be damaging when done properly it can realy knock the lights out of your opponent. On the other hand i poor high kick can be risky, it open up for all kinds of counter attck. Bad hi kick Good hi kick Leg grab Bueatiful & very well timed high kick Very good low kick to chest.
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Post by essence on Jan 11, 2005 14:13:14 GMT -5
Good day people.
Ooops, my mistake. Yes that was my reply to pitbull. Apologies to konghan.
Warmest regards, Tze Hou
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 4, 2005 8:06:16 GMT -5
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Post by Suhana LIM on Feb 4, 2005 18:55:27 GMT -5
Da jia ni men hao More or less similar with the techniques of "sao" and followed by "tat" to the knee cap area. One of the so called "earth techniques." Cheers.
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 6, 2005 4:27:24 GMT -5
Tai Ji Mei Hua Tang Lang. In Hung Ga Kuen, this skill is also seen. Blocking with the knee, shins, and then counter attack. Kindest regards, Evert
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Post by BRAM on Feb 6, 2005 9:56:14 GMT -5
what about chuo jiao kicks
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 9, 2005 3:01:34 GMT -5
Here's an old book talking about CKF kicks.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 10, 2005 3:31:25 GMT -5
Another page out of a old mag featuring CKF kicks. The Sifu is from Shaolin Hung Gar. Like kick #2 - I also do this in White Crane. Enjoy.
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 10, 2005 4:36:16 GMT -5
Gentlemen,
What makes this forum unique, is the intensive use of snapshots. Although I still feel to continue my journey, and leave this foum, it seems that the love is still growing. I do not like the mass, that's why I am a rooftop teacher.
These photo's creates so much thoughts to the surface, that I never discuss outside our direct family members. because it seems to be more regular, then unique. Golden Eagle routine is such an example. We had it, and prefer not to talk this to anybody. For years this was the same with Fa Kuen and Old Siu Lam Yong Chun.
Okay, we have a Hung Kuen Kicking set, known as Sap Fu Jau. Practitioners - visiting this forum from the beginning - know that I contacted Tze Hou Ng about this. Because he mentioned his understandings/ teachings of this form. Sap Fu Jou is a (Hung Kuen) kicking set, with all the kicks as shown in these attachments. Again, never ever heard and seen this before in Hung Kuen schools, still my grandmaster was clear of its goals and origin. But, who am I to say this to the outside world and Hung Kuen society? I didn't and only some insiders have seen this set, amongst them Cayce.
So Eric, you brought back more emotions to the surface then planned. It triggers me to reveal the information that I was hidden for more then 25 years. These skills we are practicing in a specifc routine, in our family.
Warm regards,
Evert.
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