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Post by Gojumaster on Mar 11, 2005 11:35:05 GMT -5
I guess this post should be called "Karate Feet", but what you'll find in most Goju-Ryu is that the kicks and lower-body action is often misunderstood as well as un-noticed. Even though we rarely kick in the forms, there is a lot going on downstairs, because we are attacking the other person's root in many ways in the kata that may not be obvious. Yes, some groups do practice that kick as part of their repertiore of basic technique, however, it's not in the standard 12 kata of Goju-Ryu. The primary kicking techniques in Goju-Ryu kata are front kick (kin-geri, mae-geri, kakato-geri) (with variations consisting of the ball of the foot, the heel, and the toes), the low side kick to the knee, and various sweeps and stomps. As was mentioned by one of our S h i t o-ryu members, this kick is part of Unsu (cloud hands) kata, and Kusanku kata has a movement that is "interpreted" as either the kick shown, or a "broom sweep".
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Post by Eric Ling on Mar 11, 2005 11:38:39 GMT -5
Yes, some groups do practice that kick as part of their repertiore of basic technique, however, it's not in the standard 12 kata of Goju-Ryu. The primary kicking techniques in Goju-Ryu kata are front kick (kin-geri, mae-geri, kakato-geri) (with variations consisting of the ball of the foot, the heel, and the toes), the low side kick to the knee, and various sweeps and stomps. As was mentioned by one of our S h i t o-ryu members, this kick is part of Unsu (cloud hands) kata, and Kusanku kata has a movement that is "interpreted" as either the kick shown, or a "broom sweep". How very interesting - you do 12 standard forms. There are 12 standard forms in Whooping Crane. I am beginning to think about what you said about paradigm again... Maybe I am missing something all along. Right now I am missing my Carlsberg ...it's quarter to 1 in the morning here in Kuching. Goodnight Russ........signing off.
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Post by CEB on Mar 11, 2005 12:05:35 GMT -5
Ah, 2 men set - a integral part of martial training. I got a thread in the Southern Kung Fu section talking about this. In old schools, every solo form comes complete with a 2 men set - so there you go. Some Goju teachers teach 2 man sets for every form.
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Post by CEB on Mar 11, 2005 12:27:22 GMT -5
How very interesting - you do 12 standard forms. There are 12 standard forms in Whooping Crane. I am beginning to think about what you said about paradigm again... .... Personally I would not read to much into the number of forms, but that is just me. The last 2 forms were created in 1940. Some say the system was codified after Miyagi's death. Supposedly he taught some people some forms and other people different forms as according to their strength and body type. After the master's death the students are said to have gotten together to codify the Goju system. The creation and selection of forms seemed like more of a continual if not hap hazzard process of building off what may have only been 4 original forms. FWIW some of my favorite kicks are from Seiunchin kata.
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Post by CStephens on Mar 18, 2005 10:20:07 GMT -5
FWIW some of my favorite kicks are from Seiunchin kata. Indeed. I tend to use the stepping into the Seiunchin stance (I would not try to butcher the spelling of the stance itself) as an attack into the inner or outer thigh. The "cat" stance I see as a forward kick (I like ball of the foot into the crease of the hip, toes into groin), the Sanchin dachi as a toe kick into the inner thigh or ankle. Of course, I also enjoy Beavis and Butthead, so take my applications with a rather large grain of salt.
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