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Post by Suhana LIM on Mar 11, 2005 19:17:41 GMT -5
A former teacher of mine really had no faith in his Gung-Fu. First, he did Hung-Ga, then he added Wing Chun,then he heard about Southern Mantis being the greatest thing since the wheel, then it was Bot Gua, now, he wants to learn San-Da. Had he simply stayed in one art, and worked it to perfection, he would achieve mastery. There is no magic pill, no silver bullet. Just hard work. -Why else would they call it Gung-Fu? TenTigers ni hao Thank for sharing the "classic" example in kungfu world. Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Mar 11, 2005 19:18:37 GMT -5
Miss Eric ni hao I see, if you have met him in person and even touched hands , then I believe you 200 % So in your opinion and experience, he is a phony? Cheers. hahahah Ms Suhana, I don't call anyone "phony". All I want to say is; his truth can never be my truth. Just in case you are still interested, his pic is listed in Jim Lacy (5 Elders Iron Palm) site as a "friend". hahahaha......Carlsberg's time.....
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Post by Suhana LIM on Mar 11, 2005 19:23:22 GMT -5
tsk tsk tsk - agreeing with a hyprocite? Ms Suhana, please be more careful when you do your "cut ant paste". This teashop tries it's best to serve good quality tea. Eric ni hao Sorry, I get it now. You don't call him a phony, but a hypocrite I should read more careful next time! So is it official now that NO CUT AND PASTE in the house? No one allowed to do this cut and paste anymore? Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Mar 11, 2005 19:30:44 GMT -5
Eric ni hao Sorry, I get it now. You don't call him a phony, but a hypocrite I should read more careful next time! So is it official now that NO CUT AND PASTE in the house? No one allowed to do this cut and paste anymore? Cheers. I am drinking Carlsberg and you're drunk... Read the post before my post - someone talk about his self-acknowledged hypocracy. I am borrowing that bridge that's all. I said be careful with what you "cut and paste" and not "no" cut and paste. Well, if you insist on "no" cut and paste here - fine. We'll stop all cut and paste here. Members who are invited to my new forum can resume there. We serve proper meals there. This teashop is appetizer only....
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Post by Suhana LIM on Mar 11, 2005 19:37:29 GMT -5
I am drinking Carlsberg and you're drunk... Read the post before my post - someone talk about his self-acknowledged hypocracy. I am borrowing that bridge that's all. I said be careful with what you "cut and paste" and not "no" cut and paste. Well, if you insist on "no" cut and paste here - fine. We'll stop all cut and paste here. Members who are invited to my new forum can resume there. We serve proper meals there. This teashop is appetizer only.... Eric ni hao I think you are the TAIPAN here, you can do whatever you want. I am just asking clarification, that's all. No need to feel upset Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Mar 11, 2005 19:42:07 GMT -5
Eric ni hao I think you are the TAIPAN here, you can do whatever you want. I am just asking clarification, that's all. No need to feel upset Cheers. arrh Suhana, wrong again. I am not the TAIPAN - no way. I am just the waiter serving the tea. If my guests are not happy - I stop serving. I wanted a very small teashop serving strong brew Oolong to a few guests. These days it becoming diluted with too many quests. Fact is; I miss the strong brew with Evert and Martin. No need to apologise - I am going with the flow. When it's time, it's time. Maybe it's time to move on...
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Post by Suhana LIM on Mar 11, 2005 19:50:47 GMT -5
arrh Suhana, wrong again. I am not the TAIPAN - no way. I am just the waiter serving the tea. If my guests are not happy - I stop serving. I wanted a very small teashop serving strong brew Oolong to a few guests. These days it becoming diluted with too many quests. Fact is; I miss the strong brew with Evert and Martin. No need to apologise - I am going with the flow. When it's time, it's time. Maybe it's time to move on... Eric ni hao Indeed, everyday is the time to move on.... Maybe to date there is no more "kungfu brothers and sisters fight shoulder to shoulder." Cheers. Cheers.
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Post by Jay on Mar 11, 2005 20:43:52 GMT -5
Hi guys,
Just wanted to add my two pence worth.
I've trained in three major (in the sense of major to me) styles and each successive one has had less forms as I've looked for something more direct and applicable. Chow Gar (I learned 5 forms but I think there are probably more in total) then Wing Chun (3 forms) and finally Lee Yin Sing SPM (only the 1 form).
Since learning the 1 long form of my most recent art I have all but done away with cataloging 'techniques' and as a direct result I honestly believe that my fighting has improved.
IMO, with less techniques (or arts?) there is less to 'cloud' the instincts and therefore what happens naturally is very distinctly what is trained.
Any thoughts?
John
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Post by Suhana LIM on Mar 11, 2005 21:02:34 GMT -5
Hi guys, Just wanted to add my two pence worth. I've trained in three major (in the sense of major to me) styles and each successive one has had less forms as I've looked for something more direct and applicable. Chow Gar (I learned 5 forms but I think there are probably more in total) then Wing Chun (3 forms) and finally Lee Yin Sing SPM (only the 1 form). Since learning the 1 long form of my most recent art I have all but done away with cataloging 'techniques' and as a direct result I honestly believe that my fighting has improved. IMO, with less techniques (or arts?) there is less to 'cloud' the instincts and therefore what happens naturally is very distinctly what is trained. Any thoughts? John John ni hao I do not want to comment on the above. I've stated my limited view clearly in the previous posting. But I am sure the others will gladly sharing their profound knowledge on this. Btw, could you tell me about Lee Yin Sing SPM please? Appreciate your assistance. Cheers.
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Post by PaulH on Mar 11, 2005 22:05:12 GMT -5
Eric,
For someone who love and drink Carlsberg so much, I'm surprised that you only serve tea to members. Just cut and paste your sentiment. Ha! Ha! =D
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Post by Eric Ling on Mar 12, 2005 2:03:38 GMT -5
Eric, For someone who love and drink Carlsberg so much, I'm surprised that you only serve tea to members. Just cut and paste your sentiment. Ha! Ha! =D Hi all members of Wu Lin Tien Ti.. Thank you for all your enthusiastic contributions these past months and no, I am not announcing closure of this forum. Just want to get a few things off my chest, please bear with me. I am also trying to answer some of your remarks. • Yes we are brothers – one way or another. Either the same blood flows through our veins or the same passion drives our hearts. Chinese or non-Chinese, we are brothers and sisters in the realm of Wu Lin. And please Wu Lin means “Martial forest” and not “Chinese kung fu”. • Just a few days back, Evert and I were talking about the future course of Wu Lin Tien Ti. And I said that besides my family’s Crane, the rest of my martial art materials must locate its rightful owners. Over the last 3 decades, I have amassed a large quantity of written and video materials covering a wide spectrum of fighting arts. Some of these are materials entrusted to me by leaders of various styles over the last couple of decades. Wu Lin Tien Ti did not just start recently; it truly started about 6 years ago. I embarked on a website called KungFuGalaxy, the inspiration then was to compile and present to anyone interested, a virtual library of martial arts info. Aborted due to lack of funds. “TenTigers” got a quote that says “I will not be the generation that killed Kung Fu” and I second that. Not to share what I have collected is helping to “kill” Kung Fu. I hope the appropriate descendents of various style benefits from the materials I put up. The least I could do to repay all the generosity shown to me by the different Masters in the past. • PaulH – I hinted that I am using Hendricks’ tiers method in dishing out info and that is precisely what I am doing. Much of what I do now is “cut and paste” – construct the parameters for deeper discussions. Please remember that not all of us are at the same point in the journey for knowledge. So you could say I am sieving through – some members have already received notice of the new forum that I am presently working on. This is a strictly by invitation only forum. No strangers will be admitted for certain. I have given everybody plenty time to properly introduce themselves. Many are choosing to sign up and lurk. Well, this forum will stay put and they can lurk all they want. Sir, believe me; there is method in all my madness. I need to know the members better before I decide who to invite. At this juncture, I just want to stay “cut and paste”. And Suhana, I am not upset here – it takes a lot more to needle me. I just kind of wish that we apply more discernment in what we say or present in this forum. You are, afterall, an elder in your system. Many younger members are looking up to you for directions. And Sir, Chinese Kung Fu is no longer an exclusive Chinese property. Yes, it started Chinese but it is really international now, transcending race, culture or creed. I am deeply humbled by Evert, Russ, Victor, Hendrick and many others in this forum. Their knowledge of CKF and Asian fighting arts are astounding. And it shows so very clearly in what they say in this forum – putting many of us Chinese to shame. And humbly, I think I am in the position to realize that. Thank you.
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Post by diligentmantis on Mar 12, 2005 6:04:25 GMT -5
Hi I agree that Chinese and martial arts in general are now international. we in the west have not had the privilage of our fathers and grandfathers training in kung fu. we have only been exposed to Chinese arts since the Mid to Late 70's and even then everybody was jumping on the chinese bandwagon and coming up with chinese arts that we never heard of , so it took us westerners a while before we were able to define what was real and what was not, We often got Misled on this journey, but thanks to a few good masters who adopted the attitude that westerners can learn and that it depends on the teacher not the location to learn an art. i consider myself lucky that i had a good Sifu, He was the first of the Dit Ngau masters to teach western students. So for the past twenty years Hakka arts have been my main interest, Untill i came to this forum i had only seen one form of white crane, This is an area now i wish to explore.
sean
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Post by PaulH on Mar 12, 2005 12:18:54 GMT -5
I'm speechless, Eric! No finer sentiments need to be said. I will hop back to my forum by your leave. =D
The Grasshopper O\_
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Post by Jay on Mar 12, 2005 14:10:25 GMT -5
Suhana ni hao
"Btw, could you tell me about Lee Yin Sing SPM please? Appreciate your assistance."
It's a hakka family SPM art passed through the Lee family of Ha Hang village until recently. It traces root back to the Jook Lum temple.
The style is named after Lee Yin Sing (Lee Wing Sing in cantonese) who was the first non-monk to learn.
Anything specific?
Cheers, John.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Mar 12, 2005 14:53:28 GMT -5
Suhana ni hao "Btw, could you tell me about Lee Yin Sing SPM please? Appreciate your assistance." It's a hakka family SPM art passed through the Lee family of Ha Hang village until recently. It traces root back to the Jook Lum temple. The style is named after Lee Yin Sing (Lee Wing Sing in cantonese) who was the first non-monk to learn. Anything specific? Cheers, John. John ni hao Pardon me for asking this, what is SPM stands for? Please understand that I only practice one style, and I still have to learn a lot. Cheers.
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