Bridge Destroying

[essence]

Good day Evert.

It has been very long since we talked. I trust you are well?

Yes being aware is very important. In fact, what you have just described is a facet of the technique I have not yet explored. It is good to have somebody to keep me on my toes and ensure that I do not close my mind.

On another note, I have been to Bras Basah Complex. Nothing much that catches my eye at the moment, mostly Tai Chi and Baqua stuff there. Let me know if you're interested and I will pop down there to get it for you.

A book which shows some promise, but I did not pick up was called Shaolin Lohan Shen Tar. I saw the title but did not pick the book up. Maybe you're interested? If so, let me know and I will send it to you.

Warmest regards,
Tze Hou

[Eric Ling]

Hey Tze Hou,

Good to have you back actively.

A favor to ask;

There is a bookshop on the first floor Bras Brasah Complex. Turn right when you get off the escalator and you see a restaurant. The book shop is opposite this. This shop has a sliding door.

I told Martin Watts that I would pick up a copy of “Yong Chun Bai He” for him but don’t look I will be going back anytime soon.

This shop carries “photostated” copies of this book.

I think you’ll find SanJin/Shr San Tai Bao and the butterfly knives form in the book.

Can you pick up a copy for me?

Thanks.

[essence]

Good day Eric.

Yes I have been slack on this forum of late, been busy preparing for upcoming CNY and helping out with the family business and trying my best not to neglect my martial arts. A lot of juggling to do.

I will be going to BB Complex tomorrow and I will look for the book for you.

Warmest regards,
Tze Hou

[jeff]

Yeah in Black Tiger we do alot of breaking the bridge techniques. Many of like what Eric is talking about.


jeff

[Eric Ling]

jeff said:

Yeah in Black Tiger we do alot of breaking the bridge techniques. Many of like what Eric is talking about.


jeff

Jeff, would you say BT is Hakka?

It might be just me but many Hakka styles seem to do a wide range of bridge destroying.

When I look at Bai Mei, Lung Ying and even "Beggar" style, I see this concept very prevalent.

Comments?

[jeff]

Eric said:

Jeff, would you say BT is Hakka?

It might be just me but many Hakka styles seem to do a wide range of bridge destroying.

When I look at Bai Mei, Lung Ying and even "Beggar" style, I see this concept very prevalent.

Comments?

Eric,

I wouldn't say that Hak Fu Muhn is Hakka ,but i would say that it seems to have a Hakka influence somewhere within. That could be some of what Grandmaster Wong Cheung brought to Hak Fu Muhn?!?!

jeff:)

[Eric Ling]

Hey Jeff,

Can’t say I know HFM except maybe for the few articles I read from mags.

Just curious, what are your fighting concepts like? Some snapshots?

I remember reading about a “10 Animals” form done in your system. Is this the same form found in other Canton or Shaolin system?

Thanks.

[jeff]

Eric said:

Hey Jeff,

Can’t say I know HFM except maybe for the few articles I read from mags.

Just curious, what are your fighting concepts like? Some snapshots?

I remember reading about a “10 Animals” form done in your system. Is this the same form found in other Canton or Shaolin system?

Thanks.

Eric,

I don't really have any snapshots of applications ,i can work on a few and then post them here later.

I know alot of styles/systems say they are no nonsense fighting ,but black tiger is actually the closest i've ever seen to that concept. Most techniques are very brutal and look to end the fight in 1-3 strikes.

In Black Tiger we usually attack an attack ,so the second someone looks to attack we blitzkreig their attack with one of our own. So speed is very important in black tiger.

Of course you don't really want to be that brutal ,so we practice alot of overwhelming techniques like bridge destroying and attacking the limbs themself.

As fas as i know the Hung Fut 10 animal set seems to be very close to ours ,it even uses the same 10 animals (tiger,dragon,crane,leopard,snake,lion,horse,eagle,monkey,elephant)

Hung Fut is very close in my opinion to Hak Fu Muhn ,we share alot in common ,even a couple of forms.

jeff:)

[Nataraya]

Greetings,

I hardly can imagine a Southern Boxing style without destroying Bridges. In the Hung Kuen partnerforms you will see several versions of this skill. Many qualities can be used, some destroy others to touch (diem) a nerve or cavity. Everything is okay, if the bridge might be broken. And who knows, some prefer to stay ‘in touch’.

I love the character for ‘destroying bridge. The old bird character with on top the mountain. In mandarin known as Cui Qiao, and in Cantonese: Cheui Kiu. In fact it say not much because the skill be launched from a defensive or offensive perspective. It all could be in the nature of
Defensive – or Offensive Bridging.

Indeed, the hands are one, but the feet can crush too, hidden in the stepping method or Pu Faat. Specific drills are integrated (for instance Mui Fa stepping) to start thinking about this. Next time if you spar, try stepping on his feet and launch some techniques to his body. A very nice Bridge, and who know you can use the Die Da Kiu to treat his strained ankle, hahahaha.

For Hung Ga Kuen practitioners, “Monkey Steals The Peach”, can have such a nice ‘destroying” Bridge. These skills are found back in a partnerform (Hung Kuen) known as Kuen Chaak.

In Pak Mei we trained (indeed), to knock on the door. For instance Foong Ngaan Chui (Phoenix Eye Fist) to strike soft tissue near the elbow. Or inwardly to the inner elbow part, nice nerve sensations by the way.

A nice soft way of breaking the bridge – seen in Sap Pat Mor Kiu (Pak Mei) – and surely many Fukien arts, is known as: Ya Qiao or Ngaat Kiu in Cantonese. A ‘pressing’ Bridge which (in my lineage) sometimes simplified with Crane wings ………<br>
I think you can write a book full of these Bridge hands, and in fact it should be fun to do this with some nice photo’s to it. But at the end, you will see that the most important aspect can be found before “knocking on the door”.

Warm regards,

Evert.

[TenTigers]

I agree with Evert-there are many bridge destroying techniques in Hung Kuen, that are very much like the gunting techs found in Kali. I have found, that if you develop the catch-used in boxing, then you can perform these attacks. If you can catch, and if you can touch your elbow, then you can do both together, and voila! Your elbow can smash his fist. We used to practice these drills going vertical, horizontal, inside, outside, etc. My training bro spoke of a time when Chris Sayoc's school was next to a boxing gym, and one day a bunch of "tough guys" came in to "check them out". They wanted a go, so the teacher said, no gloves. The boxers thought they had the advantage until they threw the first jab, and had their fists broken. End of fight, end of story.

[Eric Ling]

Hi folks,

Let’s zoom in a little.

Hakka players in Lung Ying and Bak Mei talk about “Scrapping Bridge”.

What is the meaning of “Scrapping Bridge”?

Anyone else outside Hakka systems do “Scrapping Bridge”?

[Nataraya]

'Scraping' Bridges, we translate it as "rubbing bridges". In our Mok Ga Pee Sau (knife set) we have scraping techniques. And ofcourse the skill of scraping fist. Meaning that you pushed the skin up - downwardly. For the uppercut, you use the chest. But the effect on you Eric is low, because you have no breast-hair. But believe me, this monkey can tell you, that it hurts. But only the grey ones fall off.

Rubbing the bridges is a very soft - kind of 'polishing' action, esoppecially in a swallowing action - seen in Lung Ying and Pak Mei. The opposite is smashing bridge) which will 'destroy'a bridge with full aggression.

I love this action, so soft and so effective for 'guiding'and so, infighting...

regards,

Evert

[Eric Ling]

Here is another bridge-breaking technique.

Anybody want to guess which style ?

The hit target is the "Bai Hai" or "White Sea" point on the inner knee/thigh area. That is the upper point shown on the leg diagram. The other is "Xue Hai" or "Blood Sea" point.

[essence]

Good day Eric.

I have no idea as to what style this is from, but from what I can see of the application, it looks to be like Mei Ren Zhao Jing or Fairlady Looks into the Mirror.

Warmest regards,
Tze Hou

[Eric Ling]

essence said:

Good day Eric.

I have no idea as to what style this is from, but from what I can see of the application, it looks to be like Mei Ren Zhao Jing or Fairlady Looks into the Mirror.

Warmest regards,
Tze Hou

Hey Tze Hou,

Yes, you are right in saying that it looks like "Fairlady Looks into the Mirror".

But it's not. Look at the fingers curling in the diagram....