Old Masters Physical Appearance

[Lau]

Hi

I think this has to do with the way the "old" masters generate power. Their power comes from relaxation. And they don't rely on muscular arm strenght for that. Because the rely on relaxation the don't build up large arm muscles and hence look "skinny" but their ability to generate power is amazing !

Regards, Lau

[Nataraya]

Interesting Lau. That's why I thought to add a picture to your statement; Hakka grandmasters............



These grandmasters didn't drink Carlsberg (by the way). Maybe Tieh Kwai Lee, one of Eric's idiols, hahahaha

Warm regards,

Evert

[Eric Ling]

Nataraya said:

Interesting Lau. That's why I thought to add a picture to your statement; Hakka grandmasters............



These grandmasters didn't drink Carlsberg (by the way). Maybe Tieh Kwai Lee, one of Eric's idiols, hahahaha

Warm regards,

Evert

Tsk Tsk Tsk Evert,

Have you never heard of Drunken 9 Steps Push or Drunken Lung Ying Fa Kuen ?

Train you to break everything and not just bridges!!!

You see my crazy Dutch compadre,

"The Drunk's intent is NOT in the wine"
The Wine gets him there.
Problem is, he got drunk along the way.
So the unintended became the intent.
Which could be the intent in the first place.
So which is it?
The wine or getting drunk?

This is a example of talking plenty but saying nothing.

So guess my intent here.............. ;D ;D ;D

[Eric Ling]

Aaaaarrrrrggghhhhhh, it's happening again.

Every time I look at SPM postures, I am reminded of White Crane.

Why why why ?

[Suhana LIM]

Da jia ni men hao

Pardon me for saying this, but using the picture of grandmasters for making a joke is showing disrespect to the elders. IMHO, it's not showing a wude.

Cheers.

[Eric Ling]

Suhana said:

Da jia ni men hao

Pardon me for saying this, but using the picture of grandmasters for making a joke is showing disrespect to the elders. IMHO, it's not showing a wude.

Cheers.

Errrrrr Suhana Suheng,

Me thought you started the thread.

The rest are just going with the flow.

Don't think anyone is showing any disrespect though.
They are talking about their ancestors in a casual manner imho.

Any sign of ‘impertinence” will be dealt with.

By me.

Thank you.

[Suhana LIM]

Eric Di Di ni hao

Yes, I started this thread. I talked about their physical appearance not for making any joke. I just curious why it seems all share the same posture. Most of them a bit skinny, not muscular and big size.

I didn't and will never connect their pictures for a laughing matter. IMHO, it's like using our own ancestors picture for a joke. It's regarded as one of the ultimate sin.

But again, I've to paused for a moment and try to understand that people might have different cultural background. This "joke" might be normal for them. Ok, I've expressed my point. It's a free and open forum, I'll respect other's view regarding this.

Cheers.

[Eric Ling]

Suhana said:

Eric Di Di ni hao

Yes, I started this thread. I talked about their physical appearance not for making any joke. I just curious why it seems all share the same posture. Most of them a bit skinny, not muscular and big size.

I didn't and will never connect their pictures for a laughing matter. IMHO, it's like using our own ancestors picture for a joke. It's regarded as one of the ultimate sin.

But again, I've to paused for a moment and try to understand that people might have different cultural background. This "joke" might be normal for them. Ok, I've expressed my point. It's a free and open forum, I'll respect other's view regarding this.

Cheers.

Suhana Suheng,

Maybe I am slow or something but where is the "joke"?

I read through all the posts again and the only thing flippant mentioned is maybe "Carlsberg".

If that is the case, I apologize.

I think the Carlsberg part was directed at me and I was using the opportunity to talk about some "noisy" posts in another thread.

NOTHING was directed at any of the Masters or Sifus.

If what I wrote caused you any discomfort; I humbly apologize to you.

I will never be disrespectful to any of our ancestors - dead or alive.

Thank you.

[Lau]

Evert,

You are better with adding pictures than I am, and indeed they confirm that the old masters seem to have the same posture. "Thin" arms because of the relaxation in the arms, but I bet they all have very strong lower backs since that is the part the power is generated from. If my Pak Mei training would cause my arms to get big and muscular than I know I must be doing it wrong.

Regards, Lau

[Nataraya]

Going back to the source, can help tremendously, and can give insight about sensations/ feelings. Those who know me understand that I will NEVER be disrespectful to elders. It is very clear that my statement towards Eric were interpreted differently. Very strange because I did this a hundred times?

Okay, back to the topic. Like the Yum - yeung discussion, there are still practitioners who want to face things black/ white. That's I know some prefer it this way. Therefore I will show the opposite way, after my last pictures. By the way, this picture was triggered due to Lau's letter. Yum & yeung walks hand in it. There are no Black and white, but only grey scales. For this time I will show the opposite:



Okay, no jokes towards Eric, but I think he 'knows'. This compilations presents some well known grandmasters from different styles. For Suhana, no disrespect at all towards them!

In 2000 I gace a workshop in San Diego and a Chinese colleague did join that group. He was amazed to see my body structure and weight, and he said that I have no belly at all. I like that statement because it explains a lot of the way my friend Lam observe and interprete things. I can tell him right now, that my belly is grwoing a bit. I do my best, probably age have to deal with that too?

Maybe next time I will show a compilation of many grandmasters that falls more in the middle of both weight presentations.


Warm regards,

Evert.

[Eric Ling]

Hi folks,

Sorry to be harping on the same topic but being one of the “creators” of this forum, I feel that it is my job to set out-of-bound markers to ensure civilized interactions. Evert is the co-creator.

I trust Evert.enough to know that he has the highest reverence for Chinese Kung Fu regardless of styles. Personally, I think if there are more Everts around, traditional Chinese Kung Fu will keep going. His knowledge of CKF is overwhelming as far as I am concerned.

Let me reiterate this; I will not be impertinent to any of my Ancestors or Seniors.

Suhana, you might have misconstrued with the “Carlsberg” thingy. I got to admit that maybe this thread is the wrong place for 2 friends to be ribbing one another.

For that I apologize again.

Really what you read is just 2 friends having a bit of fun. Maybe poor choice of place to do it.

And if I did indeed offend anyone, please accept my humble apology.

Thank you.

[pitbull]

you know...some women find a 'chi' belly sexy..they say that they have 'more to hug'. so dont fret when your chi belly is filling up. just take it as a new come on for xiao jie ;-)

[Eric Ling]

pitbull said:

you know...some women find a 'chi' belly sexy..they say that they have 'more to hug'. so dont fret when your chi belly is filling up. just take it as a new come on for xiao jie ;-)

You naughty naughty boy!!

Have you NOT been reading Suhana Suheng's posts.

No play play in this thread and especially no mention of xiao jies.

Pai see, Pai See, See Kwee Kia....... ;D ;D ;D

[pitbull]

now you talk like 'pua chu gang' guy mr Singh...Leeguanyew will get angry at you for speaking singlish!

[Eric Ling]

pitbull said:

now you talk like 'pua chu gang' guy mr Singh...Leeguanyew will get angry at you for speaking singlish!

Don't change topic you see kwee kia

Wait until Suhana Suheng read your post.

You will get your lashing. Berrry Good!! ;D ;D ;D