Post by Nataraya on Jan 22, 2005 6:02:38 GMT -5
Preserving Tradition,
What is tradition, and what are we covering lately. Which direction are we heading too and what would be left in 2100.
I believe that the old systems did cover the whole concept of the art, especially during the underground times. Actually, this is one of the reasons why I decided to spent some time in writing some of these theme’s down. In the hope that some will read it and might get the feeling that he/ she need to preserve the old information now it is still in around? If I can reach only one practitioner, then it is worth every second that I spend on this little forum.
What is our background, and how did the art develop. Secret Societies, religious order, village protection, hybrid system, monastic lineage? I think these roots should be researched more close to understand the ‘drive’ behind the arts, of our ancestors and ourselves.
I think it was in the ‘Qilin’ thread that I tried to explain that in the past a school did focus on 1. Ming Shu (Boxing), 2) Die Da Yisheng (Art of Medicine) 3) Shenda Gong and 4) Qilin dance. (The last two are specific for the Hakka Boxing arts).
Books and articles tells you often that a student must first learn healing before starting to practice martial arts. Believe me, this was more a common statement then an incidental one. For instance, in the eighties Chan Hon Chung, the late grandmaster of Hung Kuen, stated this on his documentary ‘Way of the Warrior”, that helping in the clinic was important. Healing and harming someone are so close together, and explain you the philosophy behind it.
In some letters – on this forum – I did read text back from an interview with Robert Chu. Great, because he did visit a lot of traditional teachers and have so his experience. I am sure that he absolutely heard a lot of advises. Worth to read:
www.chusaulei.com/martial/articles/articles_chu_interview_balance.html
In it you will read about martial arts and the relation with Chinese Medicine.
Why do we think that the Bubishi covers a lot of medical information (more then 30%). For instance about the Vital points. Patrick McCarthy spent much time about the recipes. I am curious about the role of Die Da Ke in Chinese school nowadays, but I have the idea that this art is dying out too.
The reason why I touch this theme is that I am a professional healing and use traditional Chinese medicine in my daily work. Amputations, bruising, post operative situation. And the beauty of it all, it works tremendously well. Patients are interested in the ‘stinking’ material I use, but they see the ‘power’ of the art. I remember that I was lucky that Die Da Yisheng was common in the seventies. My late Pak Mei sifu had a lot of medicine, and use to treat us for free after heavy injuries. But I wonder how many schools stick to the old way of martial arts..
Warm regards,
Evert.
What is tradition, and what are we covering lately. Which direction are we heading too and what would be left in 2100.
I believe that the old systems did cover the whole concept of the art, especially during the underground times. Actually, this is one of the reasons why I decided to spent some time in writing some of these theme’s down. In the hope that some will read it and might get the feeling that he/ she need to preserve the old information now it is still in around? If I can reach only one practitioner, then it is worth every second that I spend on this little forum.
What is our background, and how did the art develop. Secret Societies, religious order, village protection, hybrid system, monastic lineage? I think these roots should be researched more close to understand the ‘drive’ behind the arts, of our ancestors and ourselves.
I think it was in the ‘Qilin’ thread that I tried to explain that in the past a school did focus on 1. Ming Shu (Boxing), 2) Die Da Yisheng (Art of Medicine) 3) Shenda Gong and 4) Qilin dance. (The last two are specific for the Hakka Boxing arts).
Books and articles tells you often that a student must first learn healing before starting to practice martial arts. Believe me, this was more a common statement then an incidental one. For instance, in the eighties Chan Hon Chung, the late grandmaster of Hung Kuen, stated this on his documentary ‘Way of the Warrior”, that helping in the clinic was important. Healing and harming someone are so close together, and explain you the philosophy behind it.
In some letters – on this forum – I did read text back from an interview with Robert Chu. Great, because he did visit a lot of traditional teachers and have so his experience. I am sure that he absolutely heard a lot of advises. Worth to read:
www.chusaulei.com/martial/articles/articles_chu_interview_balance.html
In it you will read about martial arts and the relation with Chinese Medicine.
Why do we think that the Bubishi covers a lot of medical information (more then 30%). For instance about the Vital points. Patrick McCarthy spent much time about the recipes. I am curious about the role of Die Da Ke in Chinese school nowadays, but I have the idea that this art is dying out too.
The reason why I touch this theme is that I am a professional healing and use traditional Chinese medicine in my daily work. Amputations, bruising, post operative situation. And the beauty of it all, it works tremendously well. Patients are interested in the ‘stinking’ material I use, but they see the ‘power’ of the art. I remember that I was lucky that Die Da Yisheng was common in the seventies. My late Pak Mei sifu had a lot of medicine, and use to treat us for free after heavy injuries. But I wonder how many schools stick to the old way of martial arts..
Warm regards,
Evert.
