Okinawa Koryu Kata

[CStephens]

Hello;

Just an academic question: what is the criteria used to decide a kata is koryu; by this, I mean how old are the "old ways?" Does it mark prewar kata, or does it reference older forms?

[CStephens]

*cough*

[Gojumaster]

Well, without getting too formal, the designation for "koryu" kata in Goju-ryu often is meant to be all the kata that are not "training" kata, like Gekisai, or other forms, like Taikyoku or other forms included in the dojo that are not part of the early Goju-Ryu syllabus.

CStephens said:

Hello;

Just an academic question: what is the criteria used to decide a kata is koryu; by this, I mean how old are the "old ways?" Does it mark prewar kata, or does it reference older forms?

[CStephens]

Gojumaster said:

Well, without getting too formal, the designation for "koryu" kata in Goju-ryu often is meant to be all the kata that are not "training" kata, like Gekisai, or other forms, like Taikyoku or other forms included in the dojo that are not part of the early Goju-Ryu syllabus.

I see. Thanks for the clarification.

[MightBHooked]

Gojumaster said:

Well, without getting too formal, the designation for "koryu" kata in Goju-ryu often is meant to be all the kata that are not "training" kata, like Gekisai, or other forms, like Taikyoku or other forms included in the dojo that are not part of the early Goju-Ryu syllabus.

This is the same concept for Shorin-Ryu.

We do have a kata called "koryu Passai" (aka Passai Guwa, Gusukuma no Passai), because there are some oral history that say, that version of Passai is considered to be the original form.

[Seeker]

take a look at the koryu section on www.e-budo.com

[okinawagojuryu]

Josh ,

Koryu means basically Old School . Koryu Budo is old school martial arts , as taught in the Mainland . It has nothing to do w/ Koryu , also known as classical Kata , of Okinawan Karate Do .

David Somers
www.okinawagojuryu.org
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[gwilliams]

I have never heard "koryu" applied to Okinawan karate or kata. It is generally used in reference to the older Japanese arts such as kenjutsu, aikijutsu, and jujutsu. In karate, it is often used by people who want to appear traditional while teaching a mix of Japanese/Okinawan karate, or by people teaching an eclectic sword style and seeking traditional legitimacy. I stay away from it. In Shi to ryu, most tend to try to stick to the 26 or 28 Mabuni kata that he brought from Itosu and Higaonna. Some teach his "dojo" kata, some don't.

[CEB]

Hi Gene,

I hope all is well for you. It is very good to hear from you.

[gwilliams]

Hi Ed, Rob sent me over here. Glad to find you guys. I haven't been on a forum since e-budo. Good to hear from you again, as well. Gene