Ngo Cho Kun weapons

[konghan]

Here are some of ngo cho kun traditional weapons. The weapons are made of combat steel not wu shu soft steel.

Training in weapons is as relevant as it was 100 years ago as it is today.

Weapons training is good for developing cardio, strength, flexibility and muscle-eye coordination as well as mental concentration.

[Firehawk]

Cool Weapons , Ngo Cho is a great system .

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Nice to see these weapons.
Maybe you can tell us more about one or two of them?
Which one is really typical for Wuzu Quan?

[konghan]

shaolim said:

Nice to see these weapons.
Maybe you can tell us more about one or two of them?
Which one is really typical for Wuzu Quan?

First of all IMO there are three aspects of training in martial weapons;

1. for self defense knowing how to wield a weapon develop muscle coordination and strength. Martial weapons can easily be substituted with what ever item is available that can be utilize as a weapon example a broadsword can be substituted with a stick or baseball bat that can be use for self defense, wielding it the same way as a broadsword.

2. for physical fitness; weapons serve as an instrument or tool to help develop proper body posture and condition our muscles and joints through the movements of the weapon forms. It also develop cardio, strength, and flexibility.

3. heritage; training on martial weapons allows as to understand and value the essence of those weapons the power, the beauty and the history behind it.

Actually all those weapons are typical of wuzuquan the most popular ones would be the poles, spear, trident, horse cutting knife and the kwan dao.

There are three pole sizes the 5 feet pole (soldier pole) and the 7 feet pole (imperial pole) and the long lance approximately 12 - 14 feet. Unlike wu shu pole forms that emphasized mostly on long range attacks, wuzuquan pole forms especially the soldier and the imperial poles utilize more on close range and joint attacks strikes are more concentrated and focus on a specific area.

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Sounds intresting. Isn't the 5 foot a bit short for, for example, Europeans? Is the size flexible or fixed?

I also see the Monk Spade, Tamo Cha. Although one can see this weapon often, not many can use it.
I see it has only side with a blade and no 'cresen moon' below?

Best wishes,

Simon

[konghan]

shaolim said:

Sounds intresting. Isn't the 5 foot a bit short for, for example, Europeans? Is the size flexible or fixed?

I also see the Monk Spade, Tamo Cha. Although one can see this weapon often, not many can use it.
I see it has only side with a blade and no 'cresen moon' below?

Best wishes,

Simon

Yes, the 5 foot pole will be too short for people who are more than 5'8, that is why there are different martial weapon sizes that are design for different size people.

Aside from the 5 foot pole (soldier pole) there are also the 7 foot pole (imperial pole) and a 6 foot pole. plus the 12 foot long lance.

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In my style Sao Lim it is similar; there are differnt lenght sticks with different applications and techniques.
The shortest is the Cha Mei Kwan. (qi mei gun) which is standard 5,6 feet I believe in South East Asian schools. But for us that would be way to short to so any thing.
So we actually make it Eyebrow level.

Also there is the Saolim Long stick. One end (tappered) staff. Standard lenght 6 feet. That would make it Cha Mei Kwan stick for me, but for my teacher it would be quite long and fitting. It is supposed to stick out appr. 15 cm (inch ?) above you head, so that is what I use.

Otherwise most of the stick techniques would be lost to us foreigners. How about with Ngo Cho? How do you cope with this?

Simon

[konghan]

shaolim said:

In my style Sao Lim it is similar; there are differnt lenght sticks with different applications and techniques.
The shortest is the Cha Mei Kwan. (qi mei gun) which is standard 5,6 feet I believe in South East Asian schools. But for us that would be way to short to so any thing.
So we actually make it Eyebrow level.

Also there is the Saolim Long stick. One end (tappered) staff. Standard lenght 6 feet. That would make it Cha Mei Kwan stick for me, but for my teacher it would be quite long and fitting. It is supposed to stick out appr. 15 cm (inch ?) above you head, so that is what I use.

Otherwise most of the stick techniques would be lost to us foreigners. How about with Ngo Cho? How do you cope with this?

Simon

In our ngo cho kun we have the standard 5 foot pole, 7 foot pole and the long lance (12 feet long)

We also have a six feet pole, ideally shorter people (5'6 below) will be encourage to concentrate on the 5 foot pole and taller people (above 5'6) will train on the 7 foot pole.

The form of 5 ft., 6 ft, and 7 ft. poles are different, but does this mean that taller people or shorter people can not train on other pole forms?, no, anybody can train in any pole sizes it gives them the added skill & knowledege in the use of different pole sizes.

The practicality of ngo cho kun is that it is suited for all people regardless of body size, sexes or athleticism.