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Post by CStephens on Nov 21, 2004 20:45:26 GMT -5
Hello;
Just an academic question: what is the criteria used to decide a kata is koryu; by this, I mean how old are the "old ways?" Does it mark prewar kata, or does it reference older forms?
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Post by CStephens on Nov 23, 2004 19:48:52 GMT -5
*cough*
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Post by Gojumaster on Nov 23, 2004 20:07:16 GMT -5
Well, without getting too formal, the designation for "koryu" kata in Goju-ryu often is meant to be all the kata that are not "training" kata, like Gekisai, or other forms, like Taikyoku or other forms included in the dojo that are not part of the early Goju-Ryu syllabus. Hello; Just an academic question: what is the criteria used to decide a kata is koryu; by this, I mean how old are the "old ways?" Does it mark prewar kata, or does it reference older forms?
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Post by CStephens on Nov 23, 2004 21:16:07 GMT -5
Well, without getting too formal, the designation for "koryu" kata in Goju-ryu often is meant to be all the kata that are not "training" kata, like Gekisai, or other forms, like Taikyoku or other forms included in the dojo that are not part of the early Goju-Ryu syllabus. I see. Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by MightBHooked on Nov 26, 2004 10:24:36 GMT -5
Well, without getting too formal, the designation for "koryu" kata in Goju-ryu often is meant to be all the kata that are not "training" kata, like Gekisai, or other forms, like Taikyoku or other forms included in the dojo that are not part of the early Goju-Ryu syllabus. This is the same concept for Shorin-Ryu. We do have a kata called "koryu Passai" (aka Passai Guwa, Gusukuma no Passai), because there are some oral history that say, that version of Passai is considered to be the original form.
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Post by Seeker on Dec 23, 2004 23:18:09 GMT -5
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Post by okinawagojuryu on Dec 30, 2004 10:24:00 GMT -5
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Post by gwilliams on Mar 4, 2005 17:35:46 GMT -5
I have never heard "koryu" applied to Okinawan karate or kata. It is generally used in reference to the older Japanese arts such as kenjutsu, aikijutsu, and jujutsu. In karate, it is often used by people who want to appear traditional while teaching a mix of Japanese/Okinawan karate, or by people teaching an eclectic sword style and seeking traditional legitimacy. I stay away from it. In Shi to ryu, most tend to try to stick to the 26 or 28 Mabuni kata that he brought from Itosu and Higaonna. Some teach his "dojo" kata, some don't.
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Post by CEB on Mar 4, 2005 18:23:39 GMT -5
Hi Gene,
I hope all is well for you. It is very good to hear from you.
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Post by gwilliams on Mar 4, 2005 22:56:46 GMT -5
Hi Ed, Rob sent me over here. Glad to find you guys. I haven't been on a forum since e-budo. Good to hear from you again, as well. Gene
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