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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 22, 2004 2:41:11 GMT -5
HaHaHa Tze Hou, This thread started with the monkey but now we are seem to be entering "Zong Jin" or "Shaking power" dimension. Let's stop this line of discussion (for now) and return to the monkey. Xie Xie.
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Post by essence on Nov 22, 2004 5:42:06 GMT -5
Good day Eric. You are correct. I am sorry for bringing the thread off topic. Back to the Monkey Style people. Warmest regards, Tze Hou
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 25, 2004 13:09:04 GMT -5
Kor Kor , tell me what is Khut Khay? You know I blur sotong - the only khay I know is "Kok Kok Khay". ;D ;D ;D Eric Di Di ni hao Pardon me for a bit late, a bit busy lately. It's a jumping and kneeling to block the kick or we also can use it for striking the groin and or knee cap. Not blur sotong anymore I guess Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 26, 2004 1:08:25 GMT -5
Ha Suhana kor kor, Good to hear from you again. Okay, not so blur sotong now. Yes, Kao Kun is Khoo khay and jumping high. When you kick high, they “khoo khay” to counterstrike – this is characteristic kao kun. 2 other very distinct techniques from kao kun are:- 1. Using the shoulders to butt – generally with a leap forward. They block, say a front kick, and do this by throwing their entire body at you. Believe it or not, I have seen this done in Muay Thai! 2. Tiao Chiu – this is the main hand technique/posture of Kao Kun especially in Siao Lim Kao Kun. Done in a “plucking” fashion, they would launch a quick succession of these into you. Once they get up close, they drop and take you down. A common take down would be grabbing hold of one of your legs, using their heads to butt and throw you and then jumping and landing their knees into you face/chest area. That is why in Siao Lim kao kun, a basic drill is jumping and landing on knees up and down the bukoan – ouch! Well, like I said earlier, if you don’t understand how they fight – could be sticky playing with them. Some of my Siao Lim Shi Hias are Kao kun fanatics – do absolutely nothing but their Koa Kun and usually very “secretive” with what they know. Tried talking to them to put some of their things on video but so far still no luck.
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Post by Charles DaCosta on Nov 26, 2004 2:16:39 GMT -5
You say most styles acknowledge that Chen style as the founder, but I think there is rivalry between Yang and Chen as to which is the founding style? I am not sure about this though and I apologise if I have said anything wrong. Chen is the founding system (this is excepted by all in Taichi), however some of the desendent styles take principles and techniques from other systems too. And Yang was the first to go from a system of combat to a system of health. I have never herd of a rivalry between Chen and Yang. However, there was a rivalry between one of the Wu styles and Yang. This purticular Wu style was developed to combat Yang. It tends to be faster and makes its circles in a vertical plane instead of the horizontial plan --used by most others (e.g., Chen and Yang).
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Post by Charles DaCosta on Nov 26, 2004 3:59:38 GMT -5
... return to the monkey. The "monkeying around" or simulating a monkey's normal behavior, was born out of the southern tradition. It is now considered part of the modern way of doing the monkey style (i.e., wu shu), and has taken over. This approach strives to simulate every behavior (e.g., so the more you look like a monkey the better). This makes the monkey style very difficult to use as a practical fighting art. It requires above average ability in things like: flexibility, speed, strength, endurance, degree of body control, and timing. Therefore a beginner can’t really fight from it. Sure, some believe it will confuse the opponent, but it truth, it only confuses beginners and some intermediate students. The behavior that is the most practical, especially for beginners is the way a monkey fights. In this case, the main techniques of the monkey (when not using tools ) are to: pound, evade, grab, pull, wrestle, and bite. This is how Northern Kung Fu looks at the monkey. From the old north, essence of the monkey is considered intelligence (because it will use tools, like a stick or rock), flexibility, and strength. And, because you can see the major muscle groups bulging, its strength must be internal (i.e., using the internal muscle groups). In the north, they would only try to simulate the method of power generation, and planes of attack and defense. For example, the monkey tends to: - Strike from above (i.e., it likes to pound its opponents)
- Grab, pulls, and bites
- Run around trying to be hard to catch, and it charges in
- Roll around (clinched with its opponent) until: it is on top and its hands are free to pound the other, or it can bite without being bit back
- In play, its main strategy is to wrestle its opponent (here the pound turns into grabs)
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Post by Suhana LIM on Dec 10, 2004 16:18:59 GMT -5
Ha Suhana kor kor, Good to hear from you again. Some of my Siao Lim Shi Hias are Kao kun fanatics – do absolutely nothing but their Koa Kun and usually very “secretive” with what they know. Tried talking to them to put some of their things on video but so far still no luck. Eric ni hao It's common and normal , we have to remember "old school" generations are usually like that. I'm also the product of "old school", sometimes find it not easy to talk certain stuff in public domain Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 10, 2004 17:11:44 GMT -5
Hahaha Suhana kor kor Yor're back - good. How are things?
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Post by Suhana LIM on Dec 10, 2004 17:30:04 GMT -5
Eric Di Di ni hao Yes, while waiting my flight back, at last I can find some time to keep in touch with my beloved "home" ;D Everything great for the last three weeks in SF, we enjoyed it very much. Especially our time in Chinatown (the 2nd largest in the states). Hope everything fine with you and fam and of course your nursery. Cheers.
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Post by Nataraya on Jan 23, 2005 3:59:05 GMT -5
Demonstrator: Sifu Chan Siu Chuen. Form: Mi Chung Duck & Dragon Form. Advanced for of the Tai Shing Pak kwa branch. This form specializews in agility of footwork and kicking skills, while the Duck & Dragon form places emphasis on the use of hand seizing and punching. (Attached a small part of a poster from a Hong Kong magazine). Evert.
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Post by Eric Ling on Jan 23, 2005 4:36:42 GMT -5
Here is another picc of Sifu Chan Siu Chung doing his monkey kung fu with a rope tied to the ceiling.
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