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Post by Suhana LIM on Sept 20, 2004 8:27:39 GMT -5
Eric ni hao, Pardon me for telling you this. It seems that you forgot to included section for talking about MORALITY. To train martial arts without cultivate one's character is dangerous thing. It's like creating a skillful person minus good ethic and character. Nothing good wil come out from this person. Just my humble view.  Cheers. |
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Post by Fatman on Sept 20, 2004 23:04:26 GMT -5
Eric ni hao, Pardon me for telling you this. It seems that you forgot to included section for talking about MORALITY. To train martial arts without cultivate one's character is dangerous thing. It's like creating a skillful person minus good ethic and character. Nothing good wil come out from this person. Just my humble view. Cheers. Do you think this needs its own forum though? Maybe a general forum might serve the same purpose, as well as providing a place to discuss off topic or general martial arts issues. |
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Post by Suhana LIM on Sept 21, 2004 4:35:50 GMT -5
Da jia hao
It's up to the owner (Eric). But in my view, it's better if the section seperate. Cheers.
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Post by konghan on Oct 2, 2004 19:26:54 GMT -5
Good moral value is very important in learning & attaining martial art skill. It is said that " with great power comes great responsibilities". And how can one have responsibility if one has poor or weak moral values.
Without strong moral values the martial fighter will become a bully, an agressor, always looking for a fight & always getting into trouble because the power that he possess is out of control.
I always believe that physical prowess goes hand in hand with spiritualism, with God as the main source of all power & the guiding light to do the right thing.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Oct 3, 2004 0:05:59 GMT -5
Konghan ni hao
Very true my friend. Alas, not many people realise this. The only thing that come in their mind is how to conquer the opponents. MARTIAL ARTS IS MORE THAN JUST A FIGHTING SKILL. TO CULTIVATE AND IMPROVE ONE'S CHARACTER AND SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT IS THE HIGHEST GOAL. Cheers.
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Post by pitbull on Oct 3, 2004 20:27:23 GMT -5
martial arts is also to remove bad habits and vices..like constant spitting,smoking,excessive sniffing/rubbing of pak ga yeow/tiger balm/green oil,excessive drinking and gambling
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Post by Suhana LIM on Oct 4, 2004 4:51:37 GMT -5
martial arts is also to remove bad habits and vices..like constant spitting,smoking,excessive sniffing/rubbing of pak ga yeow/tiger balm/green oil,excessive drinking and gambling Pitbull ni hao Sometimes (when I have a sea sick) I need to sniff the green oil.  Me, no drinking alcohol and gambling. Cheers. |
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Post by pitbull on Oct 4, 2004 8:50:38 GMT -5
Pitbull ni hao Sometimes (when I have a sea sick) I need to sniff the green oil. Me, no drinking alcohol and gambling. Cheers. but u have many xiao jie |
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Post by Suhana LIM on Oct 5, 2004 7:04:58 GMT -5
Pitbull ni hao Nice try  Cheers. |
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Post by Om on Jan 20, 2005 11:41:29 GMT -5
When I was a kid, I always heard about the great personal characteristic of hero such as Lo Ban Teng or Shi Ko Chan.....
Today, is there still any people can be praised at and be model?
Kungfu practice today often boildown to learning a few sets a few moves mix some karate strike, Muay thai kick, Jujitsu grap.... it has leaved the cultivation of a person out from the way.
these type of modern Kung fu feed only aggrasive, greed, and fame. There is nothing about teaching people how to live a balance live or how to be courage to speak the truth when truth is needed even if one has to give up one's life.
The real value of Kung fu cultivation is to produce great personality character to benifit others.
But, in this high tech, money number one world which fill with greed and agrassiveness similar to those in the Hong Kong movies.
Where can one find a Lo Ban Teng who is always honest, straight and sometimes hard to everybody, identical whether poor or rich.
This type of hero might not survive today's world because majority of people today is so greed and believe in one can do anything as soon as not get caught. And when there is about benifit. Friends, family, can sold out or betray each others.
So, Hero similar to Lo Ban Teng and others are precious because they do what is right. not doing thing right for themself.
I hope there is a section in this forum to post about those heros we might not have anymore in this world.
learning a few move is no big deal. one can learn something in a seminal to beat others who doesnt know about that move.
But, if one meet others who has kung cultivation. then, it is not about unknown move but Kung. Lo Ban Teng was not easy to be cremated because his body's energy density is high. similar to a high density wood cannot be burn easy.
If one's mind always moving fluctuating about greed, pleasure, sex, fame, fun.... there is no way to store that much energy. that much kung.
If one always involve in sexual desire, then the kidney qi will be weak. and thus, one will always have fear. and because of the fear one will be easy to get angry. one's will never store the energy into the body...
To store energy or Kung, one needs a different type of live and it is the hero like Lo Ban Teng type. and we might not get that deep in kung fu because our life sucks.
body, energy, how one think... determine one's kungfu after one learn the art.
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Post by essence on Jan 20, 2005 14:24:56 GMT -5
Good day Om.
There is truth in what you say. However, I do not believe that we are victims of our time, rather, that humanity in general has chosen to degenrate to such a level, such that many more important things in our life go ignored and we lose our own cultural identity.
I believe Wu De is found within the practice of kung fu. Basic ethics alone lends itself to building a good character. Learning kung fu, in the beginning, may be for a sense of self defense. But, in my opinion, if you choose to look further into kung fu and make it your path in life, the philosophy behind the art becomes very apparent.
Fighting is not important. Having the humility to say you are greater is more important. Having the ability to walk away from a possible fight situation is even more important. I must admit though, I fall far from this. Not many people are able to let someone spit on them and smile back at them sincerely.
Modern day heroes are plenty outside the pugilistic world. The late Mother Theresa comes immediately to mind. To be without the world is truly bliss, for one will never be contented if one focuses on building a greater fortune than his neighbour, but how many of us can really leave everything behind?
In a way, when you understand the art you have chosen, you will find it teaches restraint more than anything else. Restraint from immorality, restraint from being overly emotional and restraint from abusing your power. The only enemy is yourself, and to be able to conquer that, is what the arts are about. First overcome your physical self through kung fu and mastering yourself physically. Only then, can you be free to overcome yourself mentally and spiritually.
Warmest regards,
Tze Hou
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Post by Suhana LIM on Jan 20, 2005 23:16:44 GMT -5
Da jia ni men hao
Those who want to know more about Grandmaster LO BAN TENG , please feel free to visit :www.hokkian-siauwlim.com
Cheers
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Post by Om on Jan 20, 2005 23:50:17 GMT -5
Theory doesnt tell it all. Wu De is often become an idealistic term.
So, there is a need to present the real life hero's bio. so we can learn what is real life Wu De from thier life.
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Cheers.
Me, no drinking alcohol and gambling. 
Cheers.