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Post by Eric Ling on Sept 21, 2004 6:00:00 GMT -5
I found these techniques in a Muay Thai site. The interesting thing is all 3 has "Hanuman" in their names. "Hanuman" is IndoChinese Monkey God. They strike me as similar to CMA Monkey kung fu techniques - coincidence ?
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Post by Suhana LIM on Sept 21, 2004 6:06:54 GMT -5
Da jia hao Hanuman/Hanoman or Monkey King or Sun Wu Kung. I think it's the Hindu/Budhist influence in Thailand culture. Cheers.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Sept 26, 2004 1:13:18 GMT -5
Eric ni hao Do you know the spiritual aspect in Muay Thai. If you notice, before start a fight, they will do some sort of "praying" movements. Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Sept 26, 2004 6:28:44 GMT -5
Hi Suhana,
Nin Hao,
Found this article in the same Thai site. Explains this ritual well :-
Before the competition of Muay-Thai , Thai swords , or any other ancient weapons martial arts , every competitors must perform the "Wai-Kru" ritual and perform the boxing dance which is the continued tradition since ancient."Wai-Kuru" is a way to pay respect to his majesty the king or the chairman of the competition tournament. Furthermore , "Wai-Kru" is the way to realize the goodness of the master who give them the knowledge. It's also the way to create the strength of their mind. The style of the dance is unique of each of boxing bureau. The boxer who danced the same style wouldn't box each other since they realize that they have the same master. Furthermore , to dance is one way to warm up before starting the fight . it also helps relax the stress and to prepare body and mind to be ready to get into the battle
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Post by konghan on Sept 27, 2004 13:10:38 GMT -5
MT is a very spiritual fighting art more spiritual than kung fu. They train & fight in the name of Buhdda, they pray for protection & they get their strength through faith. Does this look familiar, in pah kat & son sui there are movements that is identical to the knee strike.I think MT did a great job in preserving their martial art not only in forms but in its true intensity. And they were able to do that because of strong spiritualism & having people to train in MT in its origianlity.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Sept 28, 2004 5:21:37 GMT -5
Hi Suhana, Nin Hao, Found this article in the same Thai site. Explains this ritual well :- Before the competition of Muay-Thai , Thai swords , or any other ancient weapons martial arts , every competitors must perform the "Wai-Kru" ritual and perform the boxing dance which is the continued tradition since ancient."Wai-Kuru" is a way to pay respect to his majesty the king or the chairman of the competition tournament. Furthermore , "Wai-Kru" is the way to realize the goodness of the master who give them the knowledge. It's also the way to create the strength of their mind. The style of the dance is unique of each of boxing bureau. The boxer who danced the same style wouldn't box each other since they realize that they have the same master. Furthermore , to dance is one way to warm up before starting the fight . it also helps relax the stress and to prepare body and mind to be ready to get into the battle Eric ni hao Thanks a lot, now I understand what are they doing before a fight. The ritual got deeper "meaning" than just a movements. Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 12, 2004 20:36:00 GMT -5
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Post by pitbull on Oct 12, 2004 20:41:44 GMT -5
hey,you forgot ongbak
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Post by stickinghands on Oct 31, 2004 2:32:02 GMT -5
MT is a very spiritual fighting art more spiritual than kung fu. They train & fight in the name of Buhdda, they pray for protection & they get their strength through faith. Does this look familiar, in pah kat & son sui there are movements that is identical to the knee strike.I think MT did a great job in preserving their martial art not only in forms but in its true intensity. And they were able to do that because of strong spiritualism & having people to train in MT in its origianlity. konghan, with these two pictures.... take a look at the yellowed uniformed fighter.... is this the correct insertion of his right leg to placed it between the two legs of his opponents?
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Post by konghan on Nov 1, 2004 15:53:56 GMT -5
konghan, with these two pictures.... take a look at the yellowed uniformed fighter.... is this the correct insertion of his right leg to placed it between the two legs of his opponents? Yup, it is correct.
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Post by PaulH on Feb 18, 2005 17:08:11 GMT -5
Again, so many beautiful pictures in this forum! Watching them we see readily brutal directness and frank display of raw power - very stoic warriors combined with mind of steel ... In that sense, I concur with a comment earlier that it is a very spiritual approach where pain is a weakness of the flesh that the mind can learn to overcome.
Regards,
PaulH
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Post by Suhana LIM on Feb 18, 2005 22:31:18 GMT -5
Again, so many beautiful pictures in this forum! Watching them we see readily brutal directness and frank display of raw power - very stoic warriors combined with mind of steel ... In that sense, I concur with a comment earlier that it is a very spiritual approach where pain is a weakness of the flesh that the mind can learn to overcome. Regards, PaulH PaulH ni hao I agree, this is one of the reasons that make me like to sip tea in this place. Not to mention the chance of meeting interesting characters.
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Post by TenTigers on Mar 20, 2005 10:48:13 GMT -5
If you look at Muay Thai's on guard stance, their use of the elbows and knees, you see some startling similarities to Fukien White Crane. Given the close proximity of the two regions, it is small wonder. This poses two questions: 1-does Fukien White Crane, and or Ngor Cho, etc use the roundhouse kick-if not, I am wondering where it came from? 2-What similarities does Muay Boran have with Fukien WC systems?
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Post by konghan on Mar 30, 2005 13:07:28 GMT -5
If you look at Muay Thai's on guard stance, their use of the elbows and knees, you see some startling similarities to Fukien White Crane. Given the close proximity of the two regions, it is small wonder. This poses two questions: 1-does Fukien White Crane, and or Ngor Cho, etc use the roundhouse kick-if not, I am wondering where it came from? 2-What similarities does Muay Boran have with Fukien WC systems? For me the similarities of MT and ngo cho kun is very outstanding, the use of elbows, knees and the principle of using devastating strike are very identical. The round house kick is probably the only difference. NCK donot have an actual round house kick. But in nck higher forms like di stat there are kicks aim at rib cage area as well as "san sao(stand-up sweeping or tripping)" those kicks or techniques can be modify into round house kick to the thigh or knee area depending on the situation. There are also the high scissor kicks that can also be modified as flying round house kicks.
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