Different levels of Karate. Mar 1, 2005 10:19:08 GMT -5
Post by CEB on Mar 1, 2005 10:19:08 GMT -5
Yamakura Sensei is using this as a conditioning exercise I would assume. I would think that the variations you have also cited would back up my point.
Just for the record.
Demura changing his stuff: He told me that himself about 5 years ago during a dicussion of common roots. I asked him about his kata vs a kata that I did that had some stance differences. Both of us had learned the kata through Taira Shinken lineage, him from Taira Shinken myself from a second generation student. I asked why he thought there were differences and he matter of factly admitted that the stance change was his and told me the reasons why he changed it.
Shimabuku making changes:
AJ Advincula, first generation student of Shimabuku was in Okinawa when some of the changes happened. Some of them had combat related reasons, some of them were because he was getting older and balance was more important to him at the time than speed and power. He encouraged his students to look at the move from both sides.
Good teachers change stuff. Karate is deep. My Goju comes from three sources. My official teacher and 2 other teachers who's people I have a good relationship with. All 3 change things all the time. It is bad form to say , but that's not the way you taught it last time sensei.
Once at a class someone who was somewhat new to this way of teaching questioned Kimo Sensei on why the Kakuho he was teaching was not the same as it was when he had seen it a little while earlier at another seminar. Sensei explained because how this group was further along the road and the lesson today was different than it was in Madison. He said to see Matayoshi's entire kakuho would take about 8 hours ( I think it was 8 hours may have been 8 days but you get the point) and it is a very a relatively short form. Russ was kind enough to show me Matayoshi performing kakuho on video from 4 different occasions. All four were different and all 4 were different than Kimo Sensei's basic pattern. ;D
I teach things incrementally also especially Seisan. It is just a whole lot easier to teach Goju Ryu this way. Seisan with out the aftermarket add-ons is a green belt form. In it's completed form it is very advanced.
Yes Sensei uses Sanchin as bigtime conditioning when you are young. To a lesser extent as you age. FWIW, we do Sanchin 3 different ways or levels if you will. (None I think look like whooping crane.) In my limited understanding it is geared toward energy development. No shaking. Shaking in the context of our Sanchin tells me that the muscles are out of balance. Certain muscle groups are pulling harder than the equalizing muscle groups. Someone who is really good can do a very hard tense Sanchin and he will not look tense.
20-25 years ago Sensei told me the purpose of Sanchin was to be able to take a punch. The purpose and methods evolve over time. We never changed Sanchin we just teach it different to beginners than we do to the old farts.
Ways we practice Sanchin.
1) Hard - Muscles can be classified into 2 types. Muscles that help send the technique and the muscles that don't help. In Basic Sanchin we tighten everything and loosen the necessary non-helping mucles just enought to allow the technique to move. Otherwise the hand doesn't go anywhere. This is isometric strength training. Great if you are young and can't take a barbell set with you where ever you go. I also believe this imprints into the brain what muscles do what job.
2) Softer but still slow while still concentrating on the breathing aspects.
3) Fast - The only muscle tension is useful muscle tension. I believe the early dynamic tension helps teach the body what muscles eventually need to relax. I may be off base here but I think it helped me in this regard.
Method 3 is the eventual goal in terms of fighting in my opinion. Method number 2 is very good in terms of health, expansion of lung capcity etc. Method 1 build strength and lung capacity as well but is very stressful and I don't know how good it is over the long haul.
All 3 are Shoulders Down, Elbows In, Stomach Out.
I didn't explain any of this very well and I have to get to work. But basically you see previews of all three ways of doing this if you watch the kata of Goju Ryu You will see the kaishu or advance forms begin with Sanchin punching and it will be done one of the three ways. In our group once you learn the next to last form (Seisan) then it is practitioner's choice how you perform the sanchin movements in the beginning of the kaishu forms.
Please note - This is only offical Ed. I'm just an old Judo player and do not speak for any of my teachers.