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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2005 16:36:25 GMT -5
The Kau Loong Taitao (Jiulong Dadao) We use this weapon in out Sao Lim system. It is much favored because of it's weight. Powerfull sweeps! Not seen this weapon often in other systems. Never in in Holland anyway. (I have to admit: I don't get around much ) Another more recent pic: My brothers and I can't get an agreement what is better; with or without the nine rings In Penang they use a shield along side: The sword he is using has "coins" holes in it. Nam Yang Pugilistic Association uses this sword as well. Don't know if there are similar techniques as I've never seen them in action: This group (Chi Lu Chuan 七路拳 )calls it the Pak Dau Executioner's Sword. Anybody else out there that uses this weapon? Best wishes, Simon
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Post by pitbull on Feb 6, 2005 5:47:00 GMT -5
not actually very rare though. but its not one of the more popular weapons. the one in the photo is a lighter version,used for performance and competition. the one im using for training is almost 2x the wgt. the 9 rings are used for intimidation, you rattle your blade and the convict will get scared ,forcing him to spill out whatever he knows. as for the flag. like any other dando,its used to wipe the mess after. so the blade doesnt get dirty. a famous person who used this is yuhua. im still looking up for his name in suihuzhuang but i think he isnt a character there i guess. the famous 'dadao tuei' or broad sword brigade used this weapon against he japanese katana to huge sccess..when they ran out of bullets,its chop chop time! the broad side of the sword is used to defend against the katana.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2005 6:22:24 GMT -5
I know it is not an exotic weapon or very rare, but nevertheless I don’t see it that often. In mainland China they sometimes use aluminium swords with more or less the same shape; I consider that to be an entirely different weapon because of the low weight. I remember pictures of Chinese soldiers carrying swords in combat in the 1930’s. The blade was very similar, but the handle was longer and a large ring was attached to it. I’ll try find those pics again. I think they looked something like this: I also have a wushu book, from mainland China. It has a picture of a wushu exponent with the same sword as the first picture in this thread. They called it “the executioners sabre”. I’m in the middle of moving house right now, so I don’t have the picture at hand at this moment. I’ll post it later. Pitbull, can you tell more about what is happening in the picture’s? Are they taken from a video? Best wishes, Simon
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2005 7:21:55 GMT -5
Here are some pics of Chinese Soldiers (dadao dui) with the big swords. Longer handles and a ring at the end (on the Penang pictures a ring can also be seen), but basicly the same sword. Simon
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Post by pitbull on Feb 7, 2005 7:35:45 GMT -5
interesting pics.
there are many variations to this weapon. some have bells instead of the ring. the large ring on the end of the handle as supposedly used for slinging the weaponn so that it wont get lost. when i go back to china and if i found the large 700RMB dadao(4ft) again ill buy it this time...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2005 7:40:27 GMT -5
This is the picture I was actually looking for: I often go to China, but never saw this weapon in a shop there. The light weight versions of course plenty, but never heavier ones. Can I ask where one can buy such a sword in China? Best wishes, Simon Some more pics: All members of the 29th Broadsword Brigade in 1927.
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Post by pitbull on Feb 7, 2005 7:45:13 GMT -5
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Post by pitbull on Feb 7, 2005 7:47:46 GMT -5
they were sold in a bazaar in the last intl trad wushu comp in zhengzhou. there are many weapons there as well...i kade the mistake of being too frugal. and i went home with a CHEAP karate sai that i never going to use or have to use. but ill keep it anyways. looks cool
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2005 8:02:27 GMT -5
The best pic I found is this one; it is a bit big, so I just put a link here: www.dachengquan.org/dvbbs/UploadFile/2004-10/2004109151533749.jpgIt shows soldiers giving a demo in Guang Dong Province at a school. I guess this dadao does best suit people with stocky built. But I'm almost 2 meters in lenght and about 105 kilograms, but also practice with it. And enjoy it. ;D Best wishes, Simon
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Post by pitbull on Feb 8, 2005 7:56:19 GMT -5
wow! that was a very interesting pic. thanks for sharing that w us.
2 meters 105kg? uhm can you pls translate that in feet and pounds pls?
hmm...105kg is about 230lbs. ur in the same 'stocky' boat as i am. why not try the guandao? im sure it will fit you most handsomely
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Post by konghan on Feb 8, 2005 15:29:20 GMT -5
not actually very rare though. but its not one of the more popular weapons. the one in the photo is a lighter version,used for performance and competition. the one im using for training is almost 2x the wgt. the 9 rings are used for intimidation, you rattle your blade and the convict will get scared ,forcing him to spill out whatever he knows. as for the flag. like any other dando,its used to wipe the mess after. so the blade doesnt get dirty. a famous person who used this is yuhua. im still looking up for his name in suihuzhuang but i think he isnt a character there i guess. the famous 'dadao tuei' or broad sword brigade used this weapon against he japanese katana to huge sccess..when they ran out of bullets,its chop chop time! the broad side of the sword is used to defend against the katana. The 9 rings are also use for entangling an enemy's weapon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2005 6:13:02 GMT -5
@ pitbull: You sound just like my teacher He also want us long Dutchies to focus in the long and heavy weapons! I'm 196 cm to be exact; that's about 6.4 feet. And 105 kilo: 230lbs. Problem is that I want to learn everthing Especially the Kau Loong Taitao because it is so typical for our style. The style in general is more suitable for short & stocky persons, but what can I do ... But I do practice the guan dao as well. Here's a pic (a bit small ...) Oh by the way: I guess you all have seen it: Eric posted a pic of Bak Sing CLF 9 ring broadsword at the Exotic Weapons trhead. I just wanted to post it here again, since we were talking about it.
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Post by pitbull on Feb 10, 2005 7:47:28 GMT -5
bec your body types fit thise halberd types. if you want to learn the 9 ring sabre,then you should have one custom made,just my advice.. bec you need to have that custom feel for something so personal.its usually from waist to tip of the head high.from base of blade to tip
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Post by pitbull on Feb 10, 2005 7:51:14 GMT -5
the pole axe would look great on you too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2005 11:35:21 GMT -5
I did have some longer swords made in China, but it just doesn’t feel right. It seems that the model of the sword only permits some enlargement, after which it doesn’t feel right anymore. If I would really follow by body length (or better: arm length) and have a sword made accordingly, it would turn out really ridiculously long. Mind you; my arms and legs are comparatively longer; it’s not just the total length of my body.
As for the halberd; again if I would strictly follow the 'rules', my halberd would be around 3 metres long! I decided to just chose the maximum length of a weapon available, so it won’t look out of proportion. Chinese weapons are just made and designed for smaller folk
The long axe is a weapon that is on my list, but I haven’t learned it yet …<br> Best wishes,
Simon
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