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Post by clfsean on Jan 30, 2005 22:22:00 GMT -5
9 Tooth Rake (Jiuci Dingpa) Antbody knows a form with this weapon? Simon We use it in Choy Lee Fut, but I haven't gotten to it yet
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2005 13:14:59 GMT -5
To be honest I didn’t expect anybody to know a form with this weapon! Seems that CLF has many interesting weapons in it’s system. The Nine Dragon Fork is also CLF isn’t it?
Here in Holland in the Sao Lim school the rake form is only know by one person; he may be the only one in Europe that knows this particular form.
I have seen it performed only once. He used to practice the form with a normal garden rake because that time Chinese weapons were very hard to come by.
Best wishes,
Simon
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Post by clfsean on Feb 1, 2005 7:52:04 GMT -5
Yeah that 9 Dragon Trident is a CLF weapon, but only in the Chan Family CLF. Neither Hung Sing or Buk Sing use it.
The Rake that we use isn't quite that "fanciful" at the head. It looks pretty much like a standard garden rake. I've seen one variant where there are "X" number of teeth down as you would expect & then "Y" number of teeth forward (90 degrees off the "X" teeth) for a stabbing type of approach.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2005 8:01:06 GMT -5
Here is another pics of the weapon: The techniques I saw with the rake were: stab forward(with the points at the front) Hack down (with the point that point down) and rotate (with the twisty points at the side). Simon
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Post by clfsean on Feb 1, 2005 8:32:38 GMT -5
Simon... that's the one except for the hooks at the side. The one I saw was just like that except it had no hooks. Same thing though.
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 9, 2005 3:05:27 GMT -5
My contribution to this thread:- A picture of the "9 rings broadsword" from Bak Sing CLF. Another pic of a weapon that I've never seen done, only in books and mags.
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Post by pitbull on Feb 9, 2005 8:00:18 GMT -5
wow! the pic after the kiu kuan daido is really awesome! like a violin part or something u use to refine cotton in old days of china! NOW THATS EXOTIC!!! i dont find the 9 ring sabre exotic. not bec that im training in it but bec almost every club has at least someone who knows how to use it... tia carrera is exotic... ooooops!!! mustve had too much red wine!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 11, 2005 5:50:42 GMT -5
So Pit, Tia Carrera is Northern/Southern Internal or External ? ;D ;D ;D 2 more photos of rare weapons. The first is a Northern Weapon that looks real mean. Next is a photo from one of my books talking about weapons of ancient China. Notice the Japanese Katana and Naginata looking weapons. Guess what ? They are from the Ming Dynasty.
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Post by pitbull on Feb 11, 2005 8:00:00 GMT -5
yup...those are exotic weapons all right...
going out to korea. i think the koreans have something that they call the wolf spear. a spear with wolf 'whisker' knives on the sides...any pics? it was found in a manual written for koreans by some chinese ming dynasty general called do bu dong ju
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Post by pitbull on Feb 11, 2005 8:22:33 GMT -5
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 11, 2005 10:46:44 GMT -5
Hey Pit,
There is also a 12ft spear used by some Northern styles. Cannot remember which one though.
I think Wing Chun's 6 1/2 pole is comparatively shorter.
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 11, 2005 11:21:08 GMT -5
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Post by Nataraya on Feb 11, 2005 11:32:11 GMT -5
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Post by Eric Ling on Feb 11, 2005 11:33:52 GMT -5
Ha Evert,
I know and teach everyone of the weapons shown in your pictures. Nothing exotic at all hahahaha!
Where do you get pictures like that - now that I do not know.
;D ;D ;D
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Post by clfsean on Feb 11, 2005 12:14:39 GMT -5
Hey Pit, There is also a 12ft spear used by some Northern styles. Cannot remember which one though. I think Wing Chun's 6 1/2 pole is comparatively shorter. Baji & Xingyi both use "Big Spears" (Da Qiang) for energy training & development
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