Fatman
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Post by Fatman on Oct 10, 2004 23:10:31 GMT -5
First weapon: monkey stick
Favourite weapon: either broadsword or sai
Most interesting weapons: tiger fork and rake
Most useful weapons learned: double dagger, short stick, and beggar's cane
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 10, 2004 23:30:35 GMT -5
Hi Pitbull,
You're right. I agree with what you said.
Many weapons are common farming and household items like your wooden bench etc...
Especially in Southern Fukien styles, you'll find a whole range of these kind of weapons.
I think the one common universal weapon is probably the wooden sticks of varying lengths.
I love sticks - any lengths. And I am not confining myself to Chinese sticks system.
I find Filipino, Indian and Malay sticks fighting to be very highly developed.
Have you seen Selambum = the Indian style fighting art? They do beautiful stick works which reminds me of Shaolin Lohan and even Mad Monk sticks.
The Malay Silats do a quarter-staff that is very outstanding - different from most other fighting arts.
The Filipino styles of stick fighting is of course world-renowned.
Bruce Lee actually did Filipino stick fighting in his movies - even his NanChucks.
I will post some pix of stick fighting later.
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 12, 2004 8:08:54 GMT -5
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Post by pitbull on Oct 12, 2004 18:44:20 GMT -5
ah yes! thats the che bi kun...
yes,sticks are very good and easily available and not illegal to bring too...the tonfa is also good...
selambun? not yet...any photos?
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Post by Evert on Oct 28, 2004 3:15:52 GMT -5
First Weapon:
“Hang Tse Kwan” or Sun the Travellers Stick.
Favorite Weapon:
Butterfly Knives [Ji Mo Do, first monk], Trident [Yu Ga Daai Pah], Tie Gwai Lee’s Stick [ = cane form].
Most interesting weapon:
Sword [Mui Fa Giem], Rat tail stick: Fifth General Yang’s Stick.
Exclusive Forms:
Monk’s weapons, such as the Abbot’s Alarm- staff , Umbrella, Fire hand palm Stick (a very functional weapon] and the Fan.
Kind regards,
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Post by SergeTk on Oct 31, 2004 6:14:04 GMT -5
Hi!
First weapon : monkey stick Favourite weapon : broadsword ( I only know 2 ) BTW does anyone know where I can buy 3 section staff that can be transformed into a pole?
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Post by stickinghands on Oct 31, 2004 6:20:00 GMT -5
Hi everybody, Which is the first weapon that you started in your 'MA training? Which is your current favorite and why? I started with double-ends cudgel and my all time favorite is the short sticks that I do in White Crane. Love short sticks because they are so "mobile" - I got a couple in my car and that is good for long overnight trips to small villages inside Sabah/Sarawak. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D i started with kiam(jian) chinese sword cause my instructor want it, but my favorite and wish to learn is the saber or broadsword..... why? cause when you loose your temper, it is easy to use sabers.... imagining hacking a saber or broadsword to your opponents collarbone?
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 31, 2004 11:11:03 GMT -5
Hi stickinghands,
Thank you for your very fervent participation in our little humble forum.
As a standard practice, I welcome you and also request that you introduce yourself to the rest of the family here.
Info about your martial arts background is a very good start. With whom and where did your learn your kung fu, to be more straightforward.
Kindly indulge me in this matter and I promise a fun time in this forum for you and all other members.
Thank you.
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Post by SergeTk on Oct 31, 2004 15:25:06 GMT -5
imagining hacking a saber or broadsword to your opponents collarbone? Looks like someone has anger management problem lol ;D !
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Post by stickinghands on Oct 31, 2004 23:12:49 GMT -5
Looks like someone has anger management problem lol ;D ! it simply shows that Sabers are one of the brutal bladed hacking weapon cause of its Big Heavy Head compare to the clean cut straight Chinese Sword...... vast blood spit out to almost all radius making it very dirty as you can imagine...... even if there you could find a small canal on the dull edge of the saber/broadsword for the blood easy to flow down to the hand guard, still both of you and your opponent's dress and ground were spitted by its blood.... they might say that the ultimate goal of the Jian is to clean cut/stab attack the opponent and not to contact the Jian to opponents weapon..... but the ultimate goal of the Saber/Broadsword is to destroy the opponents weapon..... it is like IronPalming to destroy the feet of the MuayThais.
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Post by SergeTk on Oct 31, 2004 23:49:37 GMT -5
but the ultimate goal of the Saber/Broadsword is to destroy the opponents weapon..... it is like IronPalming to destroy the feet of the MuayThais. This is the first time I ever heard about this !
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Post by Nataraya on Nov 1, 2004 4:55:01 GMT -5
There is a system behind the road of weapon art. Sometimes you decide not to follow that path, as the instructor of 'stickinghands' tried to do. I think the teacher did a good diagnose and tried to balance the practitioner, but water flow in a direction of the lowest resistance.
Indeed a brutal weapon feels good in a young and unskilled body. But it can be great to feel as a way to express heavy emotions. In our branch the broadsword is connected with Tiger, pohysical body, and more with Li(k) then with Geng (Jin). A very rough way of handling weapons. Its like killing with all possible strength a fly.
Giem wepaons is a subtle weapon, one that I practice for over 20 years and still are not able to grab the flow throughout the form. I practice it for more then 10.000 times, and only parts of the Mui Fa Giem do feel as it should be. All my students experience the same. I am more then pleased to read that all the great grandmasters label this weapon as "most advanced". A never ending story, and so tough to handle in stress situations.
The same path you have in the 'controling' section. Firsdt the rough (read: muscular power) Kun la (Qin na), later the vital spots on the bosy which need only a 100 gram of pressure to paralyse.
This is the 'normal' path a martial artist should walk. And we must accept that some prefer to stay mainly at the physical [earth] level of the arts.
Finally the same example can be made between the Stick and the spear, a difference in subtlety.
Kind regards,
Evert.
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Post by pitbull on Nov 1, 2004 5:28:09 GMT -5
i always dream of mastering the spear...too bad im not built for it :-( i must acceot the facts :-(
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 2, 2004 20:49:00 GMT -5
Aha, Just received a bunch of new videos from kung fu brothers in Singapore. One of them is entitled “Southern BroadSword King” – see grabs. Looks very Wu-shu but very well executed form. The reverse hand techniques are nicely done. Performer is very comfortable flipping the sword and doing aerial kicks. Anyone do this weapon? Looks like a “horse chopping” sword except the handle is much shorter. img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/ericling/nan1.jpg [/img]
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Hungfist
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Post by Hungfist on Nov 6, 2004 17:25:23 GMT -5
The first weapon I learned was the Darn Do. We were taught to use it because you can easily substitute a stick or cane that is approximately the same lenghth and instead of cutting and stabbing you are poking and hitting. I have never actually had to use these skills, but its nice to know that I can. This is also probably my favorite too.
I do know some Spear and long pole techniques, and I am working on learning the Lau Gar Stick.
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