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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 4, 2004 1:21:21 GMT -5
Hi ,
Da Jie Hao,
Question : How do you handle a grappler ? You know the kind who like to "Chi kek" all the times ?
Me, I go for groin, throat, eyes and temples.
My favorite, however, is to smack them with my elbow when they are rushing in to do the wrapping.
Always aim for the spot between the eyes.
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Post by pitbull on Oct 4, 2004 1:41:35 GMT -5
side stepping and not going to the ground...its his game
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 4, 2004 1:50:49 GMT -5
Hi Pitbull,
What if he has got arms around you already and bulldozing you to the ground ?
You know like UFC style fights ?
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Post by pitbull on Oct 4, 2004 3:36:25 GMT -5
rub his ribs w ur fore knuckles..very effective..also strike in sof spots like the inner thigh inner arm,elbow etc...during grappling in Konghan i usually try to out muscle my opponents w my weight and brute strength...it works sometime but not always...im no good at he ground. thats why im learnng from a friend. to tell you frankly i think ground fighting is something most TCA overlooked. and is confined to a special few who would teach it like as i was told master Lao kim here in manila. but now he is dead i was told that ground fighitng was his trade mark
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Post by konghan on Oct 4, 2004 8:19:57 GMT -5
I love this one, specially with the ongoing popularisation of UFC grapplers being superior & bashing against strikers specially against kung fu ( again). In NCK we have several techniques that can counter a grappler: 1. in sam chien & tien te chien the double low block front kick, the front kick can also be converted to a knee strike to the face. The double low block is to ward off or prevent the grapplers' arms from wrapping around your waist. Your rear leg have to quickly bury to the ground in strong sam chien or si peng beh to counter the grapplers pushing foward momentum. The front kick or the knee strike will stop that momentum & hopefully hurt him. 2. In pah kat, ( I'll post picture to better explain what I mean ) the second move after the right hand thrust. The backing up by one step & covering up using the left elbow & left knee. With the foward momentum of the grappler using both both arms wedging it on the shoulder of the grappler & simoultaneously throwing a knee follwing up with twisting the kneck. 3. In song sui, the movement that is called " sang kaw ho kun" using one arm wedge on the back of the head of the grappler controlling & redirecting his foward movement & using the other arm striking downward aiming at the back of his head near the neck area or the ear area. Grapplers like to stupped low & protect their front area but exposing their back area. Techniques can only be effective with proper training to execute them.
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Post by nothingness on Oct 4, 2004 10:15:12 GMT -5
The UFC is still a game. They are protected by the rules. In that game, a blow to the back of the head is prohibited (I need to double check on this). No eye-poking, lanjiao grabbing either . You guys really have good techniques. However, personally, I'd do more like Eric Ling does. I was thinking about what I'll do and write it. Then I read Eric's post. Just a humble pointer for me. Learn the spyder guard. You don't have to follow their game, but it will buy you some time to get up again. This is rather easy to learn.
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 4, 2004 12:28:53 GMT -5
Hi Nothingness,
Have you heard of Burmese Boxing?
They fight scary - most matches end up real bloody.
A Kung Fu friend of mine was over there and saw some fights real close and he told me Muay Thai is child's play compared to Burmese Boxing.
He thinks these Burmese guys are the real Ultimate Fighters.
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Post by pitbull on Oct 4, 2004 18:02:11 GMT -5
any pictures of burmese boxing?
i dont get it..the rivalry between burma and thailand? what was it all about? what i know is that the thais looong ago 'snatched' their land from the burmese then called it thailand/siam? is this correct? from what i know of thais are really not native of that region and may have come from vietnam and china?
anybody watched the movie 'ongbak'?
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 4, 2004 18:15:22 GMT -5
Hi Pitbull,
The Burmese do their own form of fighting - almost like Muay Thai but much harder.
Most of their bouts end with body damages - like fighting for real!
Yes I've seen "ongbak" - I think it's okay.
What about "Beautiful Boxer" - I like this one more. Talks about a MT champ who went for a sex change operation to become a she.
Based on a true story.
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Post by pitbull on Oct 4, 2004 18:22:31 GMT -5
yes i know that..she/he/it died shortly...i followed her/his/it's bouts in ESPN...she kisses her/his/it's defeated opponents..much to their happiness hehehe
i actually find him/her/it amusing but most of all admirable bec of her/his/it's determination and courage.
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 5, 2004 10:55:00 GMT -5
Hey pitbull, Found something on Burmese Boxing for you :- BURMESE BOXING DOESN'T ALLOW THE HITTING OR KICKING OF A PRONE OPPONENT WHO TOUCHES THE FLOOR WITH TWO SHOULDER BLADES. OTHER THAN THESE RESTRICTIONS, EVERYTHING GOES - HEAD BUTTS, ELBOWS, KNEES... THE BOXERS WEAR NO GLOVES, ONLY BANDAGES WRAPPED AROUND THEIR BONY FISTS. IT ISN'T NECESSARY TO ADD THAT BURMESE BOXING MUST BE THE MOST VIOLENT SPORT IN THE WORLD. Got this from : www.geocities.com/vandeelen/Pukulan/burmese/
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Post by pitbull on Oct 5, 2004 18:04:36 GMT -5
wow...i hope this doesnt go mainstream or else stupid people will find new creative uses for these
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Post by Suhana LIM on Oct 6, 2004 1:11:02 GMT -5
Da jia ni men hao Boxing Burmese style, very interesting. I think this is the "real" fight and for sure not suitable for the faint hearted person. Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 6, 2004 2:31:03 GMT -5
This is Cat kung fu's solution - bite. Hey! Bruce Lee did it in "Fists Of Fury" - stop laughing!!!
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Post by pitbull on Oct 6, 2004 8:01:01 GMT -5
he actually used that to beat chuck norris hehehe
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