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Post by Suhana LIM on Oct 26, 2004 5:08:26 GMT -5
im the man taking the picture Pitbull ni hao Sorry, but I didn't get it. You are the man taking the picture and at the same time also the man in the picture. Are you standing infront of the mirror? Cheers.
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Post by konghan on Oct 26, 2004 14:34:34 GMT -5
me siensi abuy master william soon henry sy vincent chua li put romy kho lester pimentel richard ng from lingnam 2 girls from tai chi tought by dib bin 1 girl and 1 boy from lok bising...no more i guess So, you & siensi Abouy represent ngo cho kun Lester Pimentel represent wu shu, right? master William Soon , Vincent Chua, what they represent?
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Post by pitbull on Oct 26, 2004 18:30:30 GMT -5
master william soon is doing peho lama pai
mr henry sy(not the shoemart henry sy) did 7 star tonglong
vincnet did chua li put and is from hong xing when it was still very much in operation
lester did wushu although he was from Konghan ages ago
romy kho is an aikido-ka...he just went there to support the philippines team...with us also thru the start and end of the trip is kok king and all through out the trip our team leader mr te
my friend master william soon and henry sy are from Lingnam by the way
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Post by Suhana LIM on Oct 28, 2004 5:10:12 GMT -5
Pitbull ni hao More pictures please. Especially those with you "in actions." Cheers.
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Post by konghan on Oct 28, 2004 14:23:04 GMT -5
master william soon is doing peho lama pai mr henry sy(not the shoemart henry sy) did 7 star tonglong vincnet did chua li put and is from hong xing when it was still very much in operation lester did wushu although he was from Konghan ages ago romy kho is an aikido-ka...he just went there to support the philippines team...with us also thru the start and end of the trip is kok king and all through out the trip our team leader mr te my friend master william soon and henry sy are from Lingnam by the way Wu shu is good only for teenagers with good athletic abilities. You'll never see a 40 or 50 year old participating in wu shu. Unlike tcma many veteran who are in their 40s+ can still compete against young tcmartist. Becuase when it comes to technique, application & essence , vetaran martial artist have the edge over the younger performers but when it comes to dynamic performances the young ones will have the edge. But in wu shu it is only about dynamism.
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Post by pitbull on Oct 28, 2004 18:37:42 GMT -5
bec wushu is a gymnastic event :-)
most retire in their ealy 30's
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Post by konghan on Oct 29, 2004 18:42:05 GMT -5
bec wushu is a gymnastic event :-) most retire in their ealy 30's Not only that, after they retire at that age they discover that they can't do any of the wu shu staff anymore. So they go back to traditional kung fu.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Oct 29, 2004 19:06:08 GMT -5
Not only that, after they retire at that age they discover that they can't do any of the wu shu staff anymore. So they go back to traditional kung fu. Da jia ni men hao That's why "All that gilters are not gold." Cheers.
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Post by stickinghands on Oct 31, 2004 5:52:58 GMT -5
me siensi abuy master william soon henry sy vincent chua li put romy kho lester pimentel richard ng from lingnam 2 girls from tai chi tought by dib bin 1 girl and 1 boy from lok bising...no more i guess you mention dib bin..... is this Ang Lip Bin?
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Post by stickinghands on Oct 31, 2004 5:55:58 GMT -5
Wu shu is good only for teenagers with good athletic abilities. You'll never see a 40 or 50 year old participating in wu shu. Unlike tcma many veteran who are in their 40s+ can still compete against young tcmartist. Becuase when it comes to technique, application & essence , vetaran martial artist have the edge over the younger performers but when it comes to dynamic performances the young ones will have the edge. But in wu shu it is only about dynamism. to make the story short, non-kungfu martial arts has an expiration age...... in a computer software, it is like a 30-day trial software, that when the program expire, you should have to uninstall cause you cant use when the day lapsed. in a movie world, whose martial arts actor is active in the movie right now? in kungfu: Jackie Chan, Mark Dacascos, Donny Yuen, Zhang Ziyi, David Carradine, etc.... they are still active but in non-kungfu: where is Chuck Norris? where is Jean Claude Van Damme? where is Steven Seagal? (maybe steven seagal now using wingchun and taichi) but if Bruce Lee is not dead he is still active in the movie world to show more KungFu.... so, to make the story short, kungfu has no expiration, especially if you are concentrating in mostly hand attacks than kickings.
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Post by konghan on Nov 1, 2004 13:40:51 GMT -5
you mention dib bin..... is this Ang Lip Bin? Stickinghands greetings, may I ask what is your martial art background? & where are you from?
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Post by pitbull on Nov 1, 2004 18:17:10 GMT -5
to make the story short, non-kungfu martial arts has an expiration age...... in a computer software, it is like a 30-day trial software, that when the program expire, you should have to uninstall cause you cant use when the day lapsed. in a movie world, whose martial arts actor is active in the movie right now? in kungfu: Jackie Chan, Mark Dacascos, Donny Yuen, Zhang Ziyi, David Carradine, etc.... they are still active but in non-kungfu: where is Chuck Norris? where is Jean Claude Van Damme? where is Steven Seagal? (maybe steven seagal now using wingchun and taichi) but if Bruce Lee is not dead he is still active in the movie world to show more KungFu.... so, to make the story short, kungfu has no expiration, especially if you are concentrating in mostly hand attacks than kickings. what the hell are you talking about?
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 1, 2004 22:12:32 GMT -5
Da jia ni men hao It's better for us to refrain from giving comments, LET STICKINGHANDS INTRODUCE HIMSELF FIRST. Cheers.
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Post by konghan on Nov 7, 2004 1:34:36 GMT -5
Question?, how would you guys train or coach to fight in san shou using your traditional kung fu background?
The reason I ask becuase I notice that many tcmartist donot belive that tcma is applicable in san shou, resulting in training in something that the public will view as kickboxing or muay thai training meathod.
I for one, believe that tcmart can be apply in san shou & the first thing we need to do is not to dress like other fighting art but to dress in our own clubs uniform that would identify us as to who we are.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 7, 2004 4:54:17 GMT -5
I think the foremost reasons why tcma or kung fu has been spoken of in-effective are:- • Older generations Sifus and Elders holding back the real skills and teaching only very selected few the “real” fighting elements embedded in the forms and drills. As a kid starting out in tcma, I was doing drills and forms all the times. It was only after a long period that I was given the true fighting qualities. And it is exactly like what you hear; many of the techniques are really lethal. Falling in the wrong hands, the cost could be terrible. I think in all our discussions, we missed the part that tcma was not invented for recreational purposes or friendly tournaments. Most tcma came out during tumultuous time in China and tcma is really your weapon of survival. Knowing how to fight and win is to determine life or death sometimes! With the arrival of guns and explosives, tcma sort of got “relegated” to a recreational and self-disciplining quest. My Shaolin Sifu was always telling us; the history of Shaolin (especially Hung Gar) is written in blood. • Against that backdrop, contemporary tcma is now taught in many shades. You have the old schools, very reclusive, teaching the old ways. Mainly only to trusted immediate family or clan members. These are the folks that stay away from the limelight and refuse to fraternize with the rest of the tcma world. I know of some Shaolin sects that are still taught in this manner. • You also have the more users’ friendly versions. I remember when I first started teaching, I had parents coming up to me to say; my kid is here to work out and learn a couple of self-defense techniques only. And they don’t really want their kids to do too much free-sparring – something that was featured very highly in my classes. • The commercially run schools. This is really all about monetary profits. There are many “self-professed” experts teaching their very watered down brew and marketing it as “authentic” tcma. This is really something very widespread in non-Chinese environments. When I was teaching in the US, I encountered many such “experts”. They mimic postures and techniques and with their limited grasp of the true intent, make up their own interpretations. Usually a mix of whatever is available and spinning tales to market their brand. You can easily sort these people out. They are never really able to give you any legit lineage. Or answer with names known only to themselves – in other words unrecognized/unacknowledged. I think it is important for us to show the world what tcma is really all about. The more we hold back, the more distorted it get in the hands of these businessmen. I know there are some of you who might not agree totally with me here. Just like there are many old Sifus and seniors who see me as too liberal in the way I teach. But think about this. If we keep protecting tcma and hold it back, there will come a time when transmission will taper and stop. So what these businessmen are dishing out now will assume the place of tcma. This is something that must never happen.
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