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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 4, 2004 5:39:04 GMT -5
Pitbull ni hao Remember, what uncle Bush said: "Either you are with us or with the terrorists." Cheers.
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Post by konghan on Nov 7, 2004 12:06:25 GMT -5
Pit! I can't locate my sai form video I need you to do me a favour, can you please video sai it doesn't have to be nice just good enough for me to view, once I see it I'll be able to reconstruct & polish it. thanks ;D I have the sai vs pole, I need the sai form
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Post by pitbull on Nov 7, 2004 18:35:50 GMT -5
then i should wait for jimmy to re-appear again...he doesnt drop by Konghan that often thiugh...but i will ask him too...
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Post by konghan on Nov 7, 2004 22:32:00 GMT -5
then i should wait for jimmy to re-appear again...he doesnt drop by Konghan that often thiugh...but i will ask him too... I believe Bronson trained in sai too.
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Post by konghan on Nov 14, 2004 19:51:26 GMT -5
Here is my personal observation & interpretation of the qi kun.
The qi kun is not just a movement of hands there are techniques in it as well. In Kong Han signature of opening fist the meaning & technical usage is as follows: 1. left side two palm down = defense against a round house kick coming to your left, one hand can act as support the other to strike the shin or ankle area. 2. two fist grab pulling in towards you = grabbing your attacker's & pulling him/her towards you. 3. double low palm = guard against front kick. This can also be executed with one open palm as support & the other hand, in knife hand to strike at the shin or ankle area. 4. double grab or "sang kim" = defense against two hand grab or attempted choke. In sparing that two hand kim is also use as guard keeping your hands up like a boxer. The double kim can also work by locking on your opponents elbow by sneaking or sliding your arm under his armpit once you have executed the kim this can be follow up with a head butt or knee strike to groin or solar plexus. 5. the kung fu salute is a unique " southern han " insignia. Usually the normal salute, the right fist is under the left palm in horizontal but in southern Fujian it was change to a vertical salute as a code by early anti-manchu forces signifying the restoration of the han dynasty. The salute as a technique = the left open palm sneak into the back of the head ( neck area ) and pull the head in while the right close fist striking the chin or face. 6. double open block or sang keh, very obvious to parry a two hand attack it may be a two hand choke or attempted grabbing of your neck or shirt. 7. double hand sinking down is to condition the forearm & wrist against auto reaction against being grab.
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Post by Eric Ling on Nov 15, 2004 0:56:26 GMT -5
Here is my personal observation & interpretation of the qi kun. The qi kun is not just a movement of hands there are techniques in it as well. In Kong Han signature of opening fist the meaning & technical usage is as follows: 1. left side two palm down = defense against a round house kick coming to your left, one hand can act as support the other to strike the shin or ankle area. 2. two fist grab pulling in towards you = grabbing your attacker's & pulling him/her towards you. 3. double low palm = guard against front kick. This can also be executed with one open palm as support & the other hand, in knife hand to strike at the shin or ankle area. 4. double grab or "sang kim" = defense against two hand grab or attempted choke. In sparing that two hand kim is also use as guard keeping your hands up like a boxer. The double kim can also work by locking on your opponents elbow by sneaking or sliding your arm under his armpit once you have executed the kim this can be follow up with a head butt or knee strike to groin or solar plexus. 5. the kung fu salute is a unique " southern han " insignia. Usually the normal salute, the right fist is under the left palm in horizontal but in southern Fujian it was change to a vertical salute as a code by early anti-manchu forces signifying the restoration of the han dynasty. The salute as a technique = the left open palm sneak into the back of the head ( neck area ) and pull the head in while the right close fist striking the chin or face. 6. double open block or sang keh, very obvious to parry a two hand attack it may be a two hand choke or attempted grabbing of your neck or shirt. 7. double hand sinking down is to condition the forearm & wrist against auto reaction against being grab. Hi Kong, It is really amazing how Ngo Chor and Tai Chor share almost the same salute. In Tai Chor, • From a “figure 8” stance, you turn right and punch double fist to cover crotch area. This is a double punch to a incoming kick or after blocking/smothering opponent’s punch, you drive both fist into his mid-section. • Turn to face front and do a double middle block. Yes, this could be used against a front grab. • Draws both fists to waist and launch double “khim” and pull both hands back to the waist. • Slide right fist into left palm (bottom) and “whip” both hand out to face height in open palms from center of body. • Turn both palms and drag down to middle gate guard. This movement is also sometimes known as “turn flower” hand. Very effective against wrist hold – works every time. Even against a double-hand grab, turning and dragging can even throw the opponent. So, absolutely no doubt that we are sister-systems.
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Post by pitbull on Nov 15, 2004 7:22:10 GMT -5
lol...in my opinion..NCK is not quite peho,not quite taichor, some influences of tai shing,a bunch of lohan moves nad a sprinkle of tatmo(i actually dont know what damo kungfu looks like,but i think its the breathing stuff and the sinking of tantien etc)...just like chap chai lomi...so many flavors...
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 15, 2004 21:24:34 GMT -5
Da jia ni men hao As we know that NCK is the melting pot of five major and famous styles, then it's enriched by the grandmasters and masters that practiced it. Aren't we lucky to inherited NCK? Cheers.
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Post by konghan on Nov 18, 2004 15:31:17 GMT -5
1. double spear hand thrust = aiming for the armpit on an opponent who has his two hands coming at you to choke or to grab you. Digging in the thrust into the armpit & pulling him in.
2. The turning & twisting of the forearm & wrist in tense muscle is to condition the arm & wrist to auto react against hand grab.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 19, 2004 3:21:52 GMT -5
1. double spear hand thrust = aiming for the armpit on an opponent who has his two hands coming at you to choke or to grab you. Digging in the thrust into the armpit & pulling him in. 2. The turning & twisting of the forearm & wrist in tense muscle is to condition the arm & wrist to auto react against hand grab. Konghan ni hao The #1 = Siang Cha The #2, sorry can you be more specific. Is this still on Sam Chien? Cheers.
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Post by pitbull on Nov 19, 2004 3:56:59 GMT -5
#1 tun toh jie jue #2 tim pu jie jue
as for #2 i was tought by siensi okue and julian that this was to check the forearms of the oponent and yes,its a very good arm exercise :-)
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Post by konghan on Nov 19, 2004 8:23:56 GMT -5
#1 tun toh jie jue #2 tim pu jie jue as for #2 i was tought by siensi okue and julian that this was to check the forearms of the oponent and yes,its a very good arm exercise :-) Very true, aside to check opponents forearm it condition the muscle to auto react against any form of attack be it a kick, thrust or punch. sang chiu tim, sang chiu puweh.. or just what Pit had said. This is where the forearm must be in full tension & the coach or instructor will apply pressure or putting weights to make sure the forearm stay tense.
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Post by Suhana LIM on Nov 19, 2004 17:47:22 GMT -5
Very true, aside to check opponents forearm it condition the muscle to auto react against any form of attack be it a kick, thrust or punch. sang chiu tim, sang chiu puweh.. or just what Pit had said. This is where the forearm must be in full tension & the coach or instructor will apply pressure or putting weights to make sure the forearm stay tense. Konghan ni hao Thanks, I got it. We use different terms. The method we use in sam chien is by hitting the forearm with kun. Or we'll get punch or kick just to make sure that the tension is tip top condition. Cheers.
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Post by konghan on Dec 1, 2004 17:17:29 GMT -5
The elbow strike in sam chien can be interpreted in three different ways: 1. plain straight block, elbow strike to the head or chest. 2. using one hand to hook & grab the back of the head or neck & pull it in towards your elbow strike very devastating. 3. instead of going for elbow strike, the hand movement can go for neck break.
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Post by konghan on Dec 11, 2004 0:08:09 GMT -5
kneck break in sam chien. #3
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