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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 4, 2004 12:17:00 GMT -5
Hi everybody, Da Jia Hao. Nataraya sent me these pictures of beautiful Tiger Boxing postures. Thought I share them. Hoping that I am not going to face his TSK "anger" emotion - that crazzzzzzzzzy Dutch. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by pitbull on Oct 4, 2004 17:57:59 GMT -5
apart from crane this is probably the 2nd most influential chinese martial arts style
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Post by nothingness on Oct 4, 2004 23:44:42 GMT -5
Do you have something similar to this in Konghan?
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Post by pitbull on Oct 4, 2004 23:47:42 GMT -5
which one? the pics shown above? err...none...but we do have the standard plain vanilla NCK tiger palms (ala song sui and tim tao)...
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Post by Fatman on Oct 5, 2004 0:42:32 GMT -5
We have several tiger forms, but they look slightly different to those above.
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Post by nothingness on Oct 5, 2004 1:49:01 GMT -5
It's the fighting principal that counts. An NCK master is capable of creating new forms . BTW, what school are you from? I do have some tiger forms, too. They are created by my teacher.
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Post by Nataraya on Oct 5, 2004 5:29:50 GMT -5
Black Tiger:
There are several branches known that practice a kind of Tiger Boxing. From Northern Black Tiger Boxing up to a Wanderer style of Tiger Boxing. Fukien Tiger Boxing and a specific White Tiger Hakka Boxing system.
Besides this there are many Tiger forms found, Choy Lee Fut for instance did add such a form. I can say that we also have two Tiger Boxing forms in our curriculum. Strange enough one is mainly focused on elbows and knee skills. The other one is named: Sap Fu Jau which mean Ten Tiger Claws. Strange enough (too) this is a Kicking set, but contains 20 Tiger claws. But what is done with your left hand is done with the right hand too, and so create Ten unique Tiger Claw methods.
I do not know which style presents authentic Shaolin Tiger Boxing. In fact there might be an evolution seen in most sets, added with personal interpretation of the ancestors. I can give such an example. For instance the founder of Hung Ga Kuen was Hung Hei Kwoon. His skill was mainly on Tiger Boxing, but compiles a set (then) known as Tiger Crane Boxing. This Tiger Crane Boxing system mainly contains the eight Tiger and Eight Crane skill method. Maybe added with some LoHan skills. But absolutely NOT the way Fu Hoc Seung Ying Kuen is practiced today. Later on several other teachers created a new choreography that resulted in nowadays Fu Hoc Seung Ying Kuen. This set contains 108 original postures but at the end the practitioner performs around 245 movements.
I think Tiger Boxing from Fukien, is a local interpretation of this style. So far I have the idea that Fukien practitioners kept their trademark (power generation) and implanted that in the style of Tiger Boxing.
The above theory are personal, and should not be seen as absolute. I was lucky to have faced several of these forms as well read about it. Looking forward to other replies and additions.
Warm regards,
Evert.
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Post by pitbull on Oct 5, 2004 7:39:52 GMT -5
not surprising since the tiger is a very important animal in to the chinese...like the whitecrane and the mythical dragon
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 5, 2004 10:17:08 GMT -5
Some more goodies from the walking kung fu encyclopedia, Nataraya :- As passed through the Beggars Soceity of the Wanderers school. lineage: Sa Shing Fook - Cheng Kai Ming lineage: Li Shi Ji - Deng De Jing - Mung Jau Shun
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Post by pitbull on Oct 5, 2004 17:59:40 GMT -5
oh tiger forms! yes we have one...ngo ho chien or 5 tiger's chien
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Post by Fatman on Oct 5, 2004 18:33:04 GMT -5
It's the fighting principal that counts. An NCK master is capable of creating new forms . BTW, what school are you from? I do have some tiger forms, too. They are created by my teacher. I train under the Chee Kim Thong lineage.
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 5, 2004 22:22:41 GMT -5
Another Tiger Style Kung Fu:- Name : Shen Fu Shu or Spiritual Tiger Boxing. History traced all the way back to the "Warring States" era in Chinese history. Supposedly based on 2 tigers fightings and the system boasts 360 Chin-Na techniques - wow!!!!! I've got a 3 CDs set covering some of these Chin-Na and find some of them refreshing. Some techniques are "big" Chin Na meaning using the whole body to do the grappling. A little like in some silat that I've seen. Others strike me as very "Monkey Kung Fu" for those of you familar with Siao Lim Kao Kun. Any more Tigers out there ?
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Post by nothingness on Oct 5, 2004 23:11:14 GMT -5
Off topic question: What software do you use to extract frames from the VCD. I need that. TIA.
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 6, 2004 0:32:46 GMT -5
I play Cds with InterVideo WinDVD6. This player comes with the grabbing function. Cheers.
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Post by Eric Ling on Oct 6, 2004 6:46:32 GMT -5
Got some more Tiger stuff - besides Tiger Beer hehehe. No mention of history - just Tiger Shan Sou but many of the techniques look like Siao Lim Hor Kun. I am putting the Siao Lim Hor Kun's equivalent names down. "Hungry Tiger Seizing Pig" "Lazy Tiger Stretching Waist" "Twin Tiger Pushing Mountain" Okay, now it is time for some ice cold Tiger Beer. ;D ;D ;D
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