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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 3, 2004 19:37:00 GMT -5
Hi Evert, Russ, Chas and the rest of the members of this forum,
Good Morning (8 in the morning here in Kuching)
Sorry, if I did not address you by name –too many and really I need the 3 named gentlemen to assist in this matter.
To revamp this forum.
In my mind, the new infra-structure should be:-
• A general access area for everyone and anyone to say their piece.
• Another area, with limited access, storing all the video clips, books and manual scans.
Russ, I need your help with this. Technically, I don’t have the hardware nor software resource at my disposal to bring this about I know you have your resource library but I would feel much better if I get to vet "membership". No offence but this is important to me.
More and more, I see the need to step forward to the next level in our sharing. Words can only communicate so much. Stills are better, especially vintage written texts, and old photos of past Masters performing. But the icing on the cake must be seeing old Masters and exponents doing their kung fu. Imagine watching old forms and sharing perceptions? I would even consider giving up English Premier League Football for this!!
I share Evert’s apprehensions about allowing non-discriminatory viewings of these. I have the regrettable personal experience of meeting someone who is always prepared to “steal” materials to make it his. I am convinced that there are more of his collaborators out there.
But to disallow decent folks’ access because of the failings of this small group is, IMHO, unmerited. They are many who are truthful in walking the proper path. Evert, please give this some thoughts.
So the critical question is how do we share knowledge, using the Internet as the medium, and make sure that devious characters are fenced out?
Sugestions?
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Post by essence on Dec 3, 2004 20:11:06 GMT -5
Good day Eric.
I think this is an excellent idea! It is true that information in the wrong hands would be disastrous, therefore have the library restricted to people whom you 3 trust would not abuse the information.
I myself have some videos to send to anyone who wants, 2 clips of Chiu Wai and 1 of Chiu Chi Ling and if I come across more, hope to contribute to this pool of resources.
Warmest regards, Tze Hou
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 3, 2004 20:37:35 GMT -5
I myself have some videos to send to anyone who wants, 2 clips of Chiu Wai and 1 of Chiu Chi Ling and if I come across more, hope to contribute to this pool of resources. Warmest regards, Tze Hou Doing what, Tze Hou?
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Post by essence on Dec 3, 2004 20:44:46 GMT -5
Good day Eric.
GM Chiu Chi Ling does Ng Ying Kuen and GM Chiu Wai also does Ng Ying Kuen, but I am not sure what the other form is called.
Although they had the same Sifu (their father), it is very obvious their Hung Gar flavour is different from the power expression and generation from watching the Ng Ying Kuen alone.
Let me know if you want the clips. Will send it to you.
Warmest regards, Tze Hou
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Post by Nataraya on Dec 4, 2004 3:44:23 GMT -5
Gentlemen,
The moment I wrote a PM to you Eric about this idea, and the moment that I sit here again behind my keyboard, is one of heavy doubts. Very strange experience I must say, because I thought I was so open minded. Something that's important in my branch. Time and space to ask en reply in depth. The strange thing is that 'you' seems to be more open then I am, and THAT I never expected to be.
I lost trust in many practitioners and players around the world. In a way I have a negative image of practitioners, due to bad experiences. I prefer an active policy and interference before makeing a decision. Like to see people in their eyes, and look at their skills, before....
I agree that - after visiting Russ his huge archive - I think, that's the way it should be done. But at the same time I have a strong sensation of.............
I am afraid that I stay with strong doubts. Looking to the future I know that this path will not take that long, because the way you treat it, is special. Soon the mass will discover "information', and evil qi will arive. That's the other side of the coin, and we all know there is no Yin without Yang. How would you check participants background before they enter the locked area?
Maybe Russ need to inform us his concept, in a PM? Russ.......
For me this is really a big point, besides this I have no problems in replying superficially....
Kind regards,
Evert.
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Post by Seeker on Dec 4, 2004 9:18:14 GMT -5
Eric, I can help you out I can go with the red that the forum background already has, I am good at proboards look at asianmartialart.proboards17.com this is my board, I know how these work, just tell me
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 4, 2004 10:08:15 GMT -5
Gentlemen, The moment I wrote a PM to you Eric about this idea, and the moment that I sit here again behind my keyboard, is one of heavy doubts. Very strange experience I must say, because I thought I was so open minded. Something that's important in my branch. Time and space to ask en reply in depth. The strange thing is that 'you' seems to be more open then I am, and THAT I never expected to be. I lost trust in many practitioners and players around the world. In a way I have a negative image of practitioners, due to bad experiences. I prefer an active policy and interference before makeing a decision. Like to see people in their eyes, and look at their skills, before.... I agree that - after visiting Russ his huge archive - I think, that's the way it should be done. But at the same time I have a strong sensation of............. I am afraid that I stay with strong doubts. Looking to the future I know that this path will not take that long, because the way you treat it, is special. Soon the mass will discover "information', and evil qi will arive. That's the other side of the coin, and we all know there is no Yin without Yang. How would you check participants background before they enter the locked area? Maybe Russ need to inform us his concept, in a PM? Russ....... For me this is really a big point, besides this I have no problems in replying superficially.... Kind regards, Evert. Evert, Hey buddy, don’t worry. Hair or no hair, we are still okay. Hahahaha Yes I am very open, excessively so, according to some of my compatriots in TCMA. So to all who are calling me a Kung Fu racist – go suck a lemon! I am the exact opposite – talk to any of my non-chinese disciples. Every class is about in-depth scrutiny of what works and what doesn’t. Every technique, concept and principle is fully dealt with – I don’t hold back! And if they understand Mandarin, I will give them poems fully explained. This is the way I was taught and I intend to teach in the same way. My little contribution to make certain my system doesn’t get watered down. If the truth must be told, nothing gives me more pleasure than to see non-chinese engaging in TCMA passionately and honestly. It is this attitude that I like to bring into this forum. Presenting the real arts. Sorry, if I am repeating, but the 2 of us have got sufficient materials to put many on the right track. I know, for every ying there is a yang – nobody can change that. For every good there is the opposite. The best we can do is to manage. Evert, I look at this whole thing from another position. If we keep mums, these “evil forces” will have full free play. They will keep on bewildering the uninformed. That, my friend, is the greater evil in my book. When there is no light, darkness really rules. My way of giving these negative characters a run for their money is to keep showing authentic knowledge, keep telling the truth. I think I trust Russ enough to do an appropriate job in keeping strict control. After all, the onus is on us to admit who we want. I am actually planning on adopting Martin’s approach – show me what you got before we talk. In this case, tell me your lineage/affiliation etc…<br> After all it is our playground – private property. We get to pick.
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 4, 2004 10:12:21 GMT -5
Eric, I can help you out I can go with the red that the forum background already has, I am good at proboards look at asianmartialart.proboards17.com this is my board, I know how these work, just tell me Hi there, Thanks for the offer but frankly, I am okay with the ways thing are at the moment. Besides, the plan now is to "overhaul" the forum and skin improvement is not my first concern. Again, thank you very much for the kind offer. Eric.
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Post by Seeker on Dec 4, 2004 10:13:59 GMT -5
Well if you need any assistance, I can do pretty much everything with a proboard, just ask and I can do it codes the whole nine yards:)
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Post by Nataraya on Dec 4, 2004 15:04:12 GMT -5
Quote: "I am actually planning on adopting Martin’s approach – show me what you got before we talk. In this case, tell me your lineage/affiliation" etc…<br> I agree with that, a good check up and not accepting nicknames only. We need to double check this, and I like to be onboard then.
Russ, you are right, thank you for your letter.
Kind regards,
Evert.
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Post by Seeker on Dec 4, 2004 18:58:03 GMT -5
anychance of an Okinawan/Japanese stylist getting in on this?
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 4, 2004 22:36:47 GMT -5
anychance of an Okinawan/Japanese stylist getting in on this? Well Sir, I am not certain. First, you have to answer a simple questionnaire and the selection committee will make a decision accordingly. Here goes:- 1. Are you an alien? 2. Are you a compulsive liar? 3. Do you cheat at poker or ,for that matter, in things Martial Arts? 4. Do you steal information from others and use them in your own website. 5. Do you request for forms’ videos and even before receiving them, announce that you are teaching the very same forms. 6. Do you like to portray yourself as victim of “racism” when in fact you are being ostracized because you “sucks” as a person. 7. Are you under any form of therapy or medications? 8. Are you making up stuff and crediting it to a fictitious teacher? Well Sir, if your answer is a “Yes” anywhere, please consider yourself permanently barred. Thank you.
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Post by Seeker on Dec 4, 2004 22:43:49 GMT -5
1. Are you an alien?(to where?) 2. Are you a compulsive liar?(no) 3. Do you cheat at poker or ,for that matter, in things Martial Arts?(no, do not gamble either lol) 4. Do you steal information from others and use them in your own website.(no, i only use things when I have full permission from the fullowner, or writer) 5. Do you request for forms’ videos and even before receiving them, announce that you are teaching the very same forms.(no) 6. Do you like to portray yourself as victim of “racism” when in fact you are being ostracized because you “sucks” as a person.(no sir) 7. Are you under any form of therapy or medications?(no, and my parents where both psychologists 8. Are you making up stuff and crediting it to a fictitious teacher? (no)
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Post by Seeker on Dec 4, 2004 22:44:39 GMT -5
anything else?
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Post by Eric Ling on Dec 4, 2004 22:47:54 GMT -5
1. Are you an alien?(to where?) Planet Earth. ;D ;D ;D
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